Part 21 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Do that make sure that they strive to be good and that to remember God before or when they die ask God to accept their soul to Heaven and God will surely forgive them for what ever needs to be forgived :pray:.
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  2. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The issue her is not whether you have answered question....the issue is the answers themselves, as they take great liberties with scientific data and change it into something that suits your agenda. This is a terrible bastardization of information which actually accomplishes the opposite of your intended result.
    Rather than answer the "Tough Questions", you instead show that the tough questions cannot be answered with honesty by those who pretend to know the answers.

    Science clearly shows this planet has never contained enough water to cover it completely.
    Science clearly shows that the reanimation of dead animals is not possible.
    Science has shown that the Human species is not made of mud, and never has been.
     
  3. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    You got it all absolutely wrong. There is only One God and Christians are those who follow and worship Jesus Christ that is why we are refer to as Christians. There are many Christian sects but only One Christian God and that is Jesus Christ. There is only one interpretation Jesus is the Son of God, the Messiah, the Redeemer.
    All Christians who accept the goodness of God will not go to hell when they die and by goodness does not mean interpretation of the Bible but by actually helping others, not to be evil, protect the weak, feed the hungry, house the homeless making this world a better place working hard to discover new cure, unselfishness etc.
    We have seen people who claim to be Christians and yet they are evil.
    We have seen people who claim they are not Christians and are openly against anything good that Christians do.
    There is no difference between the both of them bad or evil Christians and evil none Christians are the same.
     
  4. dairyair

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    So no belief in God of Jesus is necessary to enter this heaven.
    Then what is the purpose of this thread and the need to answer questions?
    The only answer needed to give is don't be evil.
     
  5. dairyair

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    It would be better for the Inc character to answer. At least coherent english may be used.
    Somedays WR, you post perfect english, then most of the time it's your fake broken english.

    Can you repost in english, please?
     
  6. Incorporeal

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    Seemingly you have forgotten to take into account that all Christians are members of the same body.... the Body of Christ.
    Eph 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

    Just as all of your anatomical body parts are all members of your physical body, so it is with Christians being members of the same body of Christ. In like manner, all the members of the Rotary Club are all members of that body known as Rotarians (see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary_International )

    If each of your anatomical body parts were able to communicate to the outside world its thoughts (if the body part had the faculty of thought) about who or what it serves, each would have a different perspective which perspective would be based upon and relative to its location on or within the body and its function as a member of that body. No two parts/members would have the same exact function but would all serve (to the best of its individual ability) the requirements of the brain.


    Medical science has determined that for various reasons, some body parts do not respond to instructions as efficiently as its counterpart (right hand vs left hand)(right eye vs left eye). So also is it with the body of Christ.. Some members (for various reasons) do not respond as efficiently to instructions as do other body parts.(that anomaly is viewed in scripture as a schism).

    Any Christian who would say that another Christian is not a Christian would be the equivalent of the eye saying that the foot is not a part of the body. Only the brain can make such a determination. Therefore, such a Christian who makes such a declaration is not following instructions but instead is overstepping its instructions and authority and is attempting to perform the function of the brain. If that 'eye' were to say "come on foot, do your job", is not telling the foot that it is not a body part, but instead is only reminding the foot that it also has a job/function to perform.

    In short, your summary of how Christians react to other Christians is IMHO somewhat skewed. Granted there are some who call themselves Christian whose ability to follow instructions is awry and consequently will overstep their authority. Your summary is skewed on the basis of you saying "each Christian" which would imply the entire body of Christians, which is not a true statement but instead is flawed by judging all on the behavior of a few (or even many).
     
  7. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    my question was where in the bible does it say sphere and spirit world and other dimension. I want to read it for myself. If you dont know then dont respond or simply say that you dont know?
     
  8. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    STRAWMAN!!!! The issue is will a person who is not evil and who does not accept god be allowed in? You have made contradicting statement.
     
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    Your question creates a contradiction. God is the judge of what or who is evil. Therefore, if a person denies Christ, then Christ will deny that persons privilege of passing through those pearly gates. "for many are called, but few are chosen." Matt 22:14
    Mat 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

    Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
     
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    Exactly what ive been telling them since day one and they told me I was wrong. We just caught them in another blatant lie. You either have to accept god to get in or ya dont. Where is Mitt on this? Noyice how he stays away on the comments wan makes?
     
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    This typical of these two (at times I think they are the same person)....they extrapolate upon the scripture they claim as truth, making it their own through creative interpretation and injecting personal opinion meant to explain things completely irrational to everyone of a thinking mind and educated background in an attempt to "Answer" the questions that come about when scrutiny is placed upon the texts they see as truth.
     
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    And that is evidence of how erroneous your thinking is.
     
  13. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks so much for this. You and wan are now in disagreement. Non beleif doesnt make you evil and wan says you dont have to accept god to get in, you just have to be not evil according to wan.
     
  14. Incorporeal

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    WanRen and I are both correct. You don't have to accept God, you have to accept Christ. So again you are in error. Even the devil (Satan, Lucifer or whatever name is appropriate to that character) knows God and the majesty of God.. That is why since the creation, Satan set out to destroy the lineage that would eventually result in the birth of Jesus who is the person in which the Christ would first inhabit. Satan did not know exactly what lineage to eliminate so he randomly chose this one and then that one and then another. Christ is the key to the doorway to Heaven.
     
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    Lie. wan said you only have to be not evil to get in. Is that true? Yes or no.
     
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    You sir...are no judge of useful evidence, as you not only make up your own on demand...but refuse to note that which disagrees with your "Mind".

    There have been multiple posts refuting the claims you have made, as well as a very many questions asked that are dodged and diffused by your imaginative creations. It seems obvious this thread is little more than a means for dishonest Christians to create deceit.

    I just asked three serious questions...and was met with fabricated mental opinion presented as fact.


    Seriously...you guys suck at this.
     
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    Are you now calling me a liar? Yes or no. (how do you like that loaded question?)
     
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    On the contrary. I am a judge ... a judge of the actions of my own and the actions of others. Scripture says that I (and other Christians) "have the mind of Christ". As such, I can, I will and I do judge the actions of others.

    If you (in your interpretations) call seeking clarification of what is being asked to be equal to 'dodging' then there is nothing for you to complain about other than an inability on your part to see that clarification was being sought.

    fact = something believed to be true and real. See www.tfd.com/fact definition 2.c.

    Seriously you have a strange way of interpreting what others have to say.
     
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    As you are aware I don't accept Christianities view of Satan (as an enemy of god). I much prefer HaSatan, the angel God created for another purpose, that of testing mens' faith in God. For me the fable of Job is one of testing, as the Hebrews believe. As a matter of interest centuries before another 'Why do the Just suffer' fable is told
    According to your theory it appears that God allowed Satan to randomnly kill innocent people who just 'might' be of the lineage of Jesus. Very kind of him.
     
  20. Incorporeal

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    Obviously a wrong conclusion on your part. Why? Jesus was born... therefore, his lineage was not interrupted. God is Omniscient and therefore knew before Satan acted that the lineage was safely put aside from the ravages that Satan would unleash. Try again.
     
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    Was my sentence not clear? Answer or go away. Lol theists. This thread is a perfect illustration of the typical theist attitude.
     
  22. Incorporeal

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    Was my question not clear? Answer or go away. Lol non-theists. the above posting is a perfect illustration of the typical non-theist attitude. Are you afraid to give a direct answer to the 'loaded question'? Yes or No?
     
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    Jesus lineage wasn't. But other lineages of innocent people were, according to you, by the 'ravages of Satan'. No wrong conclusion from the information you posted.
    If a Christian suffers, let's blame Satan. If a Christian finds things going his way, let's thank God.
     
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    Nice deflection. We were talking about the lineage of Jesus... not that of others. Yes! There was a wrong conclusion as the conclusion included "...randomnly kill innocent people who just 'might' be of the lineage of Jesus." Don't you even remember the context of your former statement?
     
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    Not at all, you included the other lineages.
     
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