Part 21 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Your English remain the same still very native yes I can repost in English here it is:
You got it all absolutely wrong. There is only One God and Christians are those who follow and worship Jesus Christ that is why we are refer to as Christians. There are many Christian sects but only One Christian God and that is Jesus Christ. There is only one interpretation Jesus is the Son of God, the Messiah, the Redeemer.
All Christians who accept the goodness of God will not go to hell when they die and by goodness does not mean interpretation of the Bible but by actually helping others, not to be evil, protect the weak, feed the hungry, house the homeless making this world a better place working hard to discover new cure, unselfishness etc.
We have seen people who claim to be Christians and yet they are evil.
We have seen people who claim they are not Christians and are openly against anything good that Christians do.
There is no difference between the both of them bad or evil Christians and evil none Christians are the same.

 

Show the specific thread where I initiated discussion about other lineages without having been prompted to engage in such discussion.

The comment was prompted by giving explanation to the false claim made by another poster. However, the lineage of Jesus was known only to God and therefore, Satan had no choice but to randomly select this one, that one and the other one. Those choices were the choices made by Satan,,, not God. God merely insured that the correct lineage would be protected from Satan. So you can say whatever you want but it does not offset the fact that Satan made the choices in selection lineage.

 

Answers that you don't like to accept because it agrees with science in this case you can not say your questions were not answered they were you just don't like the answers weather it is Biblical or scientific. I can understand your rejection based on Biblical claims but rejecting based on science that is something else. Bastardization of information is about rejecting what is factual and the facts are:
1. Science have clearly claim that this earth experienced several global climatic events and incidents that destroyed the land bridges, wiped out the dinosaurs etc. and today scientist are echoing to men that unless we stop abusing this planet this planet will go under in a global scale. Nature have proven itself to be unpredictable to claim there is not enough water to drawn this planet is men's claim nature has its own ways.
2. Science clearly demonstrated that evolution took place from the huge dinosaurs to the more less gigantic creatures we know now. Reanimation = evolution
3. And the Bible does not dispute what science has learn about human and living thing composition or decomposition and it agrees that living things when it dies it will decompose back to the earth.

 

Thank you for so beautifully expressing my point for me....you have a very powerful imagination.

 

And where in the Bible say Heaven and Hell does not exist? As I said I will explain to you in a very elementary manner. Does the Bible say Heaven and Hell exist for sure it did. And do you agree? I am assuming you agree so now we can move to locate where Heaven and Hell is where in the Bible said where is Heaven and Hell? I will assume you agree that Heaven and Hell is not of this world because it is mention in the Bible John 18:36, Luke 23:43, John 3:13, John 13:36 there are many verses in the Bible that clearly indicate the existence and where Heaven is and Heaven is not of this world.
Not of this world what does that mean? It mean it is in the spiritual world, another dimension or another sphere this is where you need to expand your knowledge by understanding the Bible for all its worth. So next you ask where in the Bible that say spiritual word you want to see the or read the exact word "spiritual world" "Ecclesiastes 12:7 - Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it". Not of this world = spiritual world unless you have a different notion or understanding what not of this world mean?
So, I know where Heaven and Hell is the question is do you understand what the Bible said "My Kingdom is not of This world"? And if you do then you will understand and know where Heaven and Hell is and that is it is in the spirit world, another dimension or another sphere.

 

So no free will on the part of satan.

 

Well I guess it would depend on what it is, on how God would judge them. One thing a Christian cannot do is to not accept Jesus Christ as their Lord Savior, not accept the sin debt payment He made for them on the cross by shedding His innocent blood.

If they do not accept His payment He made for them then it means they would have to pay the penalty for their own sins by being punished for them.

So in this case the Christian who claims to be a Christian is really not a Christian after all, I mean how could one claim to be a Christian and yet profess they do not accept Jesus Christ as their Lord Savior, that doesn't make sense.

This Christian might as well be a Muslim, for they do not accept Jesus Christ as their Lord Savior.

 

You said, anyone who is not evil can go to heaven. 66% of the world are not christian. By your statement, they can go to heaven as long as they are not evil. Nothing about accepting any goodness from anyone.
Are you now going to stay with that statement or change it?

 

I believe the story of Job answers that question quite well.... Satan had to get permission from God.... Now what would that imply? Then you come back with something akin to "ahh.. but that would make god a murderer or innocent people." To which I would say... God is Sovereign and God makes the decisions on who lives, who dies... who will be rewarded and who will be punished.. Such is life within the universe created by God.... Sorry if you don't like it... but there is little I can do about your feelings.

 

See you added a new question to your original question was "you are a good person can you enter heaven?" And my answer is yes you can and you said you will not want to accept God's offer. So now you added a second link question can a person who is not evil enter heaven without accepting God? You always like to use the phrase STRAWMAN which clearly applies to your question but I will still answer your strawman question with a question how can a good person who claim to be good not want to accept God's offer to enter Heaven? If that person is truly good there is no reason why he would not accept God's offer for his soul to be in heaven? And if that person who claims to be good why would he be imposing conditions to God that you like to enter heaven without accepting God's offer to enter Heaven? In other word that person would prefer to crush and if that is the case why would that person want to crush in if he or she is a good person?

In other word to answer your question directly no a person who refused to accept God will not be able to enter Heaven being good and not evil goes hand in hand in accepting God for God is about goodness.

 

Sorry but we are all evil, we have all committed sins, committing sins makes one evil, thus you do not go to heaven being evil (being a sinner) the only way to get to heaven is to believe in God, believe and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord Savior, that my good friend will get you into heaven.

But as for babies and children not of accountable/culpable age they go straight to heaven.

Are we understanding this?

 

Nope, not at all. Just another point to show, there is no 'free will'. All is planned and all is known. You or I nor anyone else will change any of it.

 

I believe I clearly stated you have answered but said answers do not meet the basic perameters of scientific thought, and instead rely on your own iterpretation and imagined reality which does not match the science you post.

 

No, we are not. As your counter part says something totally different. Maybe you 2 can get the story straight?

 

Please explain the ice canopy hypothesis...would you mind?

 

Regardless of what another poster has said you make the comment

, then you choose to seperate the comments into two different subjects. The second comment makes no sense without the first.

Perhaps you could PROVE your point by showing just which lineages were eradicated. Or is this an opinion?

And still God could have protected the innocent. Would you not be aggrieved, being killed for no reason. Your family wiped out because God didn't care.

 

Who ever said that 'free will' was applied to angels? No one suggested that a change of things that be, can be changed. Do you believe that you can change? Do you believe you can change your hairstyle? Do you believe that your hairstyle is a matter of choice.... OR DID GOD MAKE YOU DO IT?

 

No, he didn't say something different. All he said is that if you are not evil you can go to heaven, which is a true statement.

If one is not evil that means he/she has never committed any sins in their entire lives, well sorry but there is absolutely no one in this whole entire world that can make the claim that they are not evil (not ever committing sins)

So once again the only way to get to heaven one must believe in God, accept Jesus Christ as their Lord Savior!

 

Well, one major development occurred at the flood. All lineage was destroyed except for that in which Jesus would be born. Oh I know.. that is difficult for you to believe and or accept ... oh well... I believe it and accept it.

"and still God could have protected the innocent". "innocent" according to your judgment or according to the judgment of God?

 

Innocent according to anyone's judgement. They didn't deserve to die just to protect anothers life.

Oh yes, the flood that no-one can actually date or PROVE in Biblical terms. This worldwide, world drowning flood that happened ..erm... 5000 years ago? 10000 years ago? A million years ago?

 

Each verse in Genesis as for example, states an amazing thing which today can be seen as correct, in spite that earlier readers did not even guess what was meant factually.

We just discovered the evidence to support the beginning of the heaven and the earth, in 1940, Gen 1:1.
Most science people insisted the Universe had always been here, when the facts are, it had a beginning.


Then, the idea that light did not come with the Big Bang, (Gen 1:3-5), but was delayed until the Cosmic Dark Age ended is a second point to remember.

That Earth was first a disk of rocks spinning in an accretion ring, Gen 1:2, without form, nor in a geometric globe is an amazing idea we only figured out in the last 20 years ourselves.

On and on, Genesis demonstrates some divine source of knowledge.

 

Well the last thing Robin did in his precious life was to committ murder...suicide is self-inflicted murder which is a sin.

Do you know if he was a Christian by faith? BTW purgatory is a Catholic belief which has no biblical support.

Well all I can say really say is that he is in God's hands now and only God knows what will become of the fate of Robin Williams. God judges everyone fairly and justly.

One last thing I want to say, I admired Robin Williams a lot, he was a very funny guy...a comic genius if you will! He will be certainly be missed by many I'm sure! And my deepest sympathies go out to his family in their time of emotional agonizing grief!

 

The record shows I have yet again asked a straight forward on point valid question and the theists have resorted to dodging and flat out refusal to respond once they have been caught contradicting each other. One theist says you just have to be not evil to get into heaven, the other says you have to accept Jesus, the OP remains missing.

 

The record shows I have yet again asked a straight forward on point valid question and this non-theist has resorted to dodging and flat out refusal to respond once he has been caught resorting to name calling by inference. This non-theist says that I have told a 'lie' yet he refuses to answer the question as to whether or not he is calling me a liar. He is fearful of stating what he desires to say by using a vague clause.

 

Your quote does not say "not of this world" anywhere. Please quote the bible directly where it says this or lose another argument before I move onto another question. This is my last attempt to get you to show me where in the bible it says this. You also said sphere, I want to see where the bible says that.
To remove any confusion.
You stated heaven is a sphere. Show me where exactly in the bible it says this
You stated heaven is located in the spiritual realm. Show me exactly where the bible says this.
You stated its another dimension. A) which dimension and B) where does the bible say this.
You need to quote the bible not your colorful interpretation of it.