Please explain the Coronavirus. Is it that deadly or not?

The only reason I can see is it appears to be much more contagious than similar viruses.

 

We know it's a respiratory virus that most effects the elderly and those with underlying health issues. Just continue listening to your TV and trying to make political hay, of it. Rather sad but stay the course. Orange Man Bad, bro!

 

We need to teach people HOW TO wash their hands. Recent studies in washrooms and at restaurants have shown that fewer than 2 in ten people wash their hands correctly. The majority don't know how to, even if they know they are being monitored and asked to do it carefully.

They don't do things in the right order. They don't scrub. They don't do anything under their nails. They don't wash the lower arms or up the wrist or backs of their hands, and they don't do it nearly long enough.

Basically they wet their hands right and that's about all.

 

The difference is that within two weeks of the initial case of H1N1, which began in California so the administration had no advanced warning, the administration went into action and they did so transparently without sugar coating anything, everyone who cared knew what was being done. That built confidence that everything that could be done was being done. We all know that no one can stop a virus from circulating but what will happen as it circulates is what's important. When the vaccine was found, a national emergency was declared so that certain rules and restrictions could be waved for a more rapid response. All of these things solicited confidence in the administration.
This admin has stuck to the "Nothing to see here, move along" approach. We have little or no idea what the admin is doing but we are being told the response is "perfect". That scares the **** out of people that don't believe as Gospel every word said by Trump. His use of "perfect" tells me that he isn't looking to the future and for mistakes that were made that need correcting.

 

What do you want Trump to do, tell you what to do?

You have been told which age group and types of conditions cause people to be susceptible to be most susceptible to the disease.

You have been told what you can do to lessen your chances to be infected by the disease.

You have been given a map to show you where current infections are in the world.

Medical institutions are working on a vaccine, and trying to produce test kits.

You can call your own doctor to get his or her advice.

etc...

Are you ignoring all or some of that advise? Are you just sitting on your hands in front of your TV waiting for Trump to tell you what to do? What else are you expecting should be done?

 

That's certainly NOT what the experts are stating.

And, the direction of taking no action is just wrong - at least because it will kill many who would otherwise live, and it would lead to more people who need care while we don't have some big reserve of care capacity.

Without taking action, experts say there will be 25,000 cases in WA by April. From there, it would continue to increase rapidly.

Germany says they believe that 70% of their population will get COVID19. Italy has way more patients than they have care capacity.

A flu pandemic would be a big problem, too. Saying it's "just flu" is just stupid.

 

Tell the truth. Having Trump and Pence come here to Seattle and make statements that we knew were not true is not acceptable.

The US was slower to move on testing that other countries. For example, we needed exceptions made for allowing companies to move flu research in progress to move focus to COVID. There were laws in place to prevent that, and these people asked for exceptions and did not get them. Let's stop missing these opportunities.

Stop downplaying COVID19. Saying it will magically go away is a great way to stop or slow action that states need to take.

We need to do something for low income wage earners who are now out of work. Tax relief does not help. Work to keep large companies alive doesn't help those not getting paychecks. Also, without help these people typically have to work regardless if they are not well, which is an exposure risk. Having the ceo of Trump Tower propose bailouts for hotel owners is just plain NOT acceptable.

George W Bush signed direct help to wage earners put out of work by 911.

 

We want Trump to stop contradicting experts. He says a vaccine this year, they say 18 months is a best case scenario. He says the virus is stopped or will go away by April, they say otherwise. And we hear from those same experts that they've explained this stuff to him, but he doesn't or can't bring himself to relay the real info to the public. I'd say we want him to be trustworthy, but that ship sailed when he couldn't stop lying about things as meaningless as crowd sizes and TV ratings. How is the general public to trust anything coming out of his mouth right now? Sure, we've been given a map to show where current infections are, from the CDC. If Trump had shown us the same map it would probably be covered in Sharpie, and the sycophants would be lining up to tell us how awesome of a job he's doing.

The best thing Trump could do right now is simply point everyone to Pence on this issue. His response to any COVID-19 question should be to refer to the VP's work. I don't like Pence or his politics at all, but at least he is a regular kind of politician-level of honest and appears to be taking this seriously.

For real, the conservatives here and elsewhere in the US need to pull their heads out for a second and recognize that Trump has blown it on this. Even the National Review posted an op-ed that he's failed here. It's okay to admit when your president messes something up.

 

Very well stated!

All that Trump cares about in regards to this virus is how this affects his reelection. Period!

 

Nope. It is not that deadly unless you have a compromised immune system or are elderly.

But it is spreading pretty fast.

It has just been described as pandemic by the WHO

 

On what are you basing the notion that it appears to be more contagious?

 

So the results for the H1N1 of ‘09 and the COVID 19 of today are nearly identical.

 

Myth: You're waaaay less likely to get this than the flu
Not necessarily. To estimate how easily a virus spreads, scientists calculate its "basic reproduction number," or R0 (pronounced R-nought). R0 predicts the number of people who can catch a given bug from a single infected person, Live Science previously reported. Currently, the R0 for SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes the disease COVID-19, is estimated at about 2.2, meaning a single infected person will infect about 2.2 others, on average. By comparison, the flu has an R0 of 1.3.

Perhaps, most importantly, while no vaccine exists to prevent COVID-19, the seasonal flu vaccine prevents influenza relatively well, even when its formulation doesn't perfectly match the circulating viral strains.

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-myths.html

 

It would seem to be a bit worse for the old and a bit better for the young.
Of course the fatality rate is about 7 times the seasonable flu

 

1) Ignore Trump.
2) Pay attention to Anthony Fauci.

 

Flu vaccines... Oh you mean the vaccine that no one except seniors, peoples that are already sick or pregnant women get, and even those only a minority do get vaccinated and it has at best a 25% chance of being the right one for the virus going on that specific year... People have way too much faith in that stuff.

Eat good food, exercise, don't smoke, have a good hygene... In short keep in shape and you'll be fine.

As for the seniors dying in senior homes... We don't call those "heaven's waiting room" for nothing. When you get in, you don't get out alive.

 

Politics explains it. The democrats and their media are crying fire in a theatre because someone lit a cigarette.

 

If you are old and or sick it’s bad just like the flu is. The vast majority of us will think we have a cold

 

It's clear that it is more serious. People are dying. Others are requiring serious medical attention.

Regardless of how contagious it turns out to be, the numbers are growing rapidly and slowing that rate is an important objective, right?

 

Hyper-partisan claptrap is ineffective in dealing with the coronavirus.

Don't smoke and listen to Dr Fauci.

 

Says you.

Experts say it is significantly more serious than flu.

And, besides those who actually die there are many who require serious medical attention - which is not in endless supply.

 

Disgusting.

Cite it or retract it.

 

Yes it is disgusting. Watch the news.

 

Here is a link that does not align with your link's assessment

https://www.popsci.com/story/health/how-diseases-spread/

I am not pretending to know, but I am pointing out that different and legitimate sources are saying different things.

 

My response was specifically about its level of being contagious.

If you want to make it about people dying, the flu kills between 300,000 and 700,000 per year. We are nearing the end of this season and Covid 19 so far has killed around 4000 globally. Even if we allow for the notion that the death toll will multiply by 10, it is still very small in comparison to overall flu deaths. It could multiply by 100 and still be dwarfed by the typical flu. Reported death rates are pure nonsense because we have no way of knowing all of the mild cases that were never brought into the healthcare arena. When we calculate the death rate for the flu, we look at the number of actual deaths and divide that by the number of estimated cases worldwide. With covid 19, we are looking at the number of actual deaths, and dividing only by the actual number of cases that have been officially diagnosed which is obviously far lower than the number of cases that exist. It is not an apples to apples comparison at that point.

Indeed it is deadly, but then again so are all of the other myriad of flu viruses that go around in a given year.