Please explain the Coronavirus. Is it that deadly or not?

Until you have a health emergency and there are no hospital beds because they're full of old people on ventilators. You ever hear the saying "no man is an island"? We're all in this together and this is going to affect everyone.

 

It actually appears to be only slightly most contagious than the normal flu virus.

Trump's not repeating anything that the medical community is not also saying.

Timetable For A Vaccine Against The New Coronavirus? Maybe This Fall

I agree that with our vigorous FDA approval requirements, 4,000 US citizens could be dead and buried, and the FDA will still refuse to approve a vaccine.

 

Trump has already declared covid19 a health care emergency

 

This isn't a flu virus. But really, all you need to do is look at italy to see what's coming.

 

Why not South Korea?

 

And again you assume worst case scenario is the likely one. Must suck being you.

 

Antibiotics don't affect viruses.

 

There's plenty of toilet paper to lie on though.

That's pretty comfy.

 

Like what?

Are you arguing opinion? Because you can place 100 doctors in a room, and often get dozens of differing opinions. You will always be able to find armchair quarterbacks happy to go on TV or radio and present their differing opinions.

 

They never heard of triage either... in a catastrophic event, as sad as it may be, grandma and grandpa won't be on the ventilator long if ever. They wouldn't suffer needlessly but the limited ressources won't be spent on them.

 

Actually H1N1 was much worse.

The common flu is more dangerous than COVID19 to younger people.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3928226/

According to the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC), 96% of this year’s lab-confirmed influenza is type A (H1N1). The virus is unusual in that it appears to affect younger people more than other strains of seasonal influenza. People aged 20 to 65 are being hit harder than usual, comprising 52% of flu cases. Normally, 80% of people who die from seasonal flu are 65 years of age or older, but during the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, between 62% and 85% of those who died were younger than 65.

 

Good. Now he needs to stop doing rallies, stop comparing this to the flu, stop downplaying it, and get something to Congress soon. Like within a day or two. The markets are freaking out, and we're about a week away from some real disturbing scenes that will be coming out of places like Seattle and Rochelle.

 

"Is the worst yet to come, Dr. Fauci?" Rep. Carolyn Maloney, chairwoman of the House Committee on Oversight and Reform, asked Fauci on Wednesday.

"Yes, it is," Fauci replied.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health...in-u-s-and-it-s-going-to-get-worse-fauci-says

You've been wrong at every turn on this, and I've been right every time. Doesn't that make you stop and think?

 

Because we didn't do large-scale testing, and we didn't take this seriously. Italy at least shut their school system down early on. I was on here over a week ago saying shut the schools down.

 

What are you trying to argue? Trump didn't contradict his own experts? He didn't predict we'd be at zero cases by April? He didn't compare this to the flu? Kudlow didn't say this was contained?

Don't you think those statements were horribly irresponsible, especially NOW? NOW that we have the National Guard deployed to Rochelle, doesn't Trump look stupid saying we'd be down to zero by April? Doesn't Kudlow look dumb claiming this was "virtually airtight"?

Of course they do. Can you imagine if Obama downplayed Ebola WHILE IT WAS KILLING AMERICANS? Omg, the shitfit you guys would have had. But of course no President before Trump would have ever done such a stupid thing. How you tolerate it...I guess it really is a cult.

 

Large scale testing is a nonsensical crutch being leaned on. We DO know the number of deaths, which gives a easonable indication of how many cases we have had eventhough oddly a large portion of our deaths have come from one nursing home. At some point people need to stop being Chicken Little. This thing is not going to have a death toll that exceeds the flu. In any given year the flu kills between 300,000 to 700,000 people. Very few people even bother to learn whether a given year is severe or mild in terms of the flu, yet we are going to sit here and fret about every singular death which at this point is about 4000 globally. If you dont care enough to find out if in a given year the flu is killing 300,000 or 700,00, why should we care so much about 4000? If you do not care about the difference between 300,00 and 700,000, why should you care if somehow the Covid 19 death toll reached 100,000 which is an enormous projection not likely to be reached. Is a death somehow worse if due to Covid 19 as opposed to it being due to the flu?

 

The flu affects everyone, because the flu virus keeps mutating, and no one vaccine can ever get rid of it. The same will be true for the corona virus. It's just another virus that the human race will eventually build an immune response for.

In the short-term, many people will catch it, and 97% or more will recover from it; and those that do recover from it will then have their own built-in immune response for it. It's how the human race has survived for as long as it has.

 

Do you want to read Trump's comments and then your article again, or do you need someone to spell out the half-dozen ways they don't line up?

Yeah, how dare the FDA make sure a vaccine is more helpful than harmful before rolling it out to the general public.

 

We DON'T know the number of deaths because we're not testing everyone who's dying of pneumonia. And when we get around to testing the people that died in Jan/Feb/Mar, we don't know how many Coronavirus deaths we missed because we chalked it up to the flu. 0? Unlikely. 5? 10? 20? 45? Who knows. Without the testing kits, we're flying blind. We have no real idea how many people have this and how many have died from it. That's why Italy's situation is so scary- they actually took some steps to try and stop this. We haven't done anything.

Not in America. Unless some miracle drug is discovered, this is going to be a lot worse than the flu. Figure at least 100,000 Americans dead, and the downstream effects will be insane. Like I said, just look at Italy to see where we'll be at in about two weeks.

You should stop posting this nonsense. It's completely irresponsible.

 

Nobody's saying this is some extinction level event. They're saying it's going to be disruptive and a lot of people will die. Just because the human race goes on, doesn't mean we should be blase about death and suffering. That's kind of a heartless position to take, and it's not one that you really believe. I'm sure you've lost loved ones, I'm sure it hurt, and I can imagine what your response would have been had someone said to you: "It's OK. The human race will survive".

 

So you are going on record as saying that there will be 100,000 American deaths? LOL.....There is nothing that I can say that is going to discredit your words better than your own statement. WOW! That's silly.



You also think there is a possibility of us developing a miracle drug in time to address this outbreak? That is equally as silly.

 

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Are you now suggesting ALL news is "fake"?

I'm asking you to cite your claim.

Or, retract it.

 

At least. And that's if we're lucky. It killed nearly 20 people at one nursing home. There are over 10,000 nursing homes in this country.

There are some antivirals that might be effective. Human trials will take awhile. But it's a waste of my time discussing this with you. You have no idea what you're talking about.

 

Yes it looks like your Government is worse than that of China. They tried to hide it at first but even they gave up when it became too bad. Zinc is supposed to be effective in stopping it getting a hold but there is a problem getting the Zinc to do this. It will not work if you just take zinc supplements. South Korea who have an amazingly low death rate have been giving their people a drug which helps Zinc to do the job. In addition they have been testing 10.000 day with and without symptoms and offering treatment with said medicine if they are found positive regardless of whether they seem ill or not. They also stopped entry to all from infected countries and everyone was wearing a mask. All these things seem to have got them into a situation where they look like they may have won the battle for now.