Religion is irrelevant in todays world

Hey this is your thread.. You started this thread with the declaration that religion today is irrelevant.

Why now does Proof of God have anything to do with the relevancy of religion. There are many religions that do not have God as a foundation.

You declared that religion is irrelevant,,, now prove it. Now of course if you are absolutely considering that atheism is legally recognized as a religion, and the facts of history bestow upon science the fact that it also is a religion (numerology), then yes... consideration of the relevancy of religion will be taken.

 

Belief in god IS irrelavent, that is a given.
Science has blasted too many holes in religon.

I have no need to prove anything, you on the other hand do. You are a believer so come on tell us why it is relevant in todays world of science and TRUTH that we believe in old fairytales that are full of shyte?

 

Science cannot blast a whole in anything to which it is a part. Science is a revised version of the old religions that practiced numerology.

Sure you do. You declared that religion is irrelevant. You made the claim, now prove it.

 

Your replies are getting rather wacky bud, calm down before you have a hearty and prove to us all that there is no god.

I asked YOU to PROVE something. the moment you can do it i may just take what you have to say a bit more seriously.

 

Based on the history that I have uncovered through internet research, I can prove what I say to be a historical fact with regard to science being a religion ... revised from the old religions that practiced numerology. Can you prove anything that you have stated?

I have indicated to you that there is no need for me to prove anything to you until you are ready to face the truth that science is also a revised religion that still practices the old art of numerology. I have already posted that proof in another thread, and all of you wannabe scientists failed miserably over the course of almost a week to even attempt to challenge my evidence.

My point is simply this. With science being a religion (revised) and you saying that religion is irrelevant, then that makes science irrelevant. Now how absurd is your claim about the annihilation of religion when that which is your own following is founded in religion?

 

Science is NOT a religon....

 

So says the voice of one who speaks through ignorance of the subject matter. Do your homework little one.

 

We know plenty of what took place from the time of Constantine to the enlightenment.

Knowledge destruction. Science, Medicine, Philosphy or anything else that the Church felt conflicted with its teachings or interfere with its power could get one burned at the stake or worse.

 

You are the one asserting that science is a religion.... tell me this
how is chemistry a religion
how is medicine a religion
how is biology a religion.
I personally think anyone that asserts science is a religion is more than ready for one of those special rooms with the padding on the walls.

 

I am telling you that you (PERSONALLY) don't KNOW anything that you can attest to regarding that period of time. All you know is the recitations of other people. All that anyone KNOWS comes from either personal experience else from what others have told us. You, like all the rest of us, are nothing more than human tape recorders that are set on semi-automatic-playback. You, like all the rest of us, pick and choose what we want to believe to be true, and then we engage in promoting those ideas that are most suitable to the agenda that we as individuals have established to be good and proper according to our own desires.

So let me ask you. HOW do you KNOW any of that material is valid and/or is the absolute truth?

 

Chemistry is founded upon the principles established by the periodic table whose original 12 or 13 numbers were picked out of thin air. Hydrogen being the first. At that time and up to the present day, no scientist has ever seen or otherwise been able to count the number of electrons orbiting the nucleus, and no scientist has ever seen the number of protons and or neutrons inside the nucleus. Hydrogen was arbitrarily assigned a number to serve as a base number for the remainder of the elements on the chart. Pure fantasy on the part of the scientists then and now. The numerology involved in the calculations were worked out so that the scientists could force the other elements to have numbers that would be based on that arbitrary number assigned to hydrogen.

Because medicine involves the use of chemicals in the making of medications, it is also based on chemistry which is based on numerology.

Biology is a comparative field of study where patterns are studied and grouped. (Example: DNA. and Predictions relating to an individual when specimens are compared to other specimens) Another branch or aspect of numerology.

You are perfectly welcome to express your opinion. Because you cannot prove that a person making such expressions is wrong, you phrase your comment to make sure that it is perceived as an opinion rather than a stated FACT.

 

This is just existential nonsense. "How do you know the sky is blue" ?

The exact same can be said about the Bible.

It is the "recitations of other people" .

We know the Church tortured folks because the torture dungeons in the Church basements still exist. This is much better evidence than anything we have for the validity of the Bible.

So let me ask you. HOW do you KNOW any of that material is valid and/or is the absolute truth

We dont know what is true and what is not. It is not only plausible but likely that some of history is fabricated.

The Bible is no different.

 

it aint blue

it's black with little white dots about half the time

 

Your comment about the existential nonsense is your opinion.

Well of course it is. Did anyone ever say that the Bible was written by the finger of God? No? Nice try at distractions.

Did you witness the tortures? No? Then you just have the recitations of other people... therefore you don't KNOW that the information is valid or true.

Exactly my point. You admit that what I am saying is true. You don't know what is true and what is false. You simply choose whatever meets your need for the moment in regards to the subject matter and your agenda. Therefore, all of this history BS that you folks discuss is the biggest bunch of BS I have ever seen. Why...? Because you CANNOT PROVE any of it to be either true or false. All of you are spinning your wheels on abstractions of the most obscure design. But hey... it makes you 'feel good'... and as the latest social philosophy teaches you... "if it feels good, do it"... but when you take on that attitude, remember the criminal may be doing things that makes him/her 'feel good'... so your social philosophy "if it feels good, do it" only gives the criminal permission to do as he/she pleases.

Absolutely... The Bible is no different... From a secular point of view....

 

Sorry you seem to have miss understood me...I asked for PROOF not for semi coherent rambling.

 

++: God is existing while you are believing in god: realist
+0: God is existing while you are not believing in god: irrealist
0+: God is not existing while you are believing in god: irrealist
00: God is not existing while you are not believing in god: realist

So - now I have all possiblities for 10^-43 seconds (The plank-time or plank-second). We know - per definitionem - now for sure something: If you are a realist then I am an irrealist and if I am an irrealist then you are a realist. But we are not able to be both together the same time realists or irrealists. This means: You defined somehow a situation of everlasting enemyship between you and me. That's everythinh what your knowledge and your realism is able to tell to you while my belief tells me that everyone is the same idiot like I - wether he's a realists or not with knowledge or not. But this is only a belief - so feel free not to be an idiot like me ... .

http://youtu.be/W9uT39TsChc

 

Sounds like "Be happy - otherwise I will kill you". By the way: I did not even try to speak about your prejudices with you.

http://youtu.be/xpZRpd--liE

 

Sorry mate still trying to make sense of your post first post, its not very clear.

 

I would really like to know why so many members of the english speaking world are nothing else than agressive ignorants only.

http://youtu.be/QYtIcg6-Rgw

 

Maybe its that we are "normal" and the rest of the world are softcocks???

 

"rest of the world" and "softcock" are really funny expressions - "normal" too.

http://youtu.be/8Lz_qPvKCsg

 

It's not like religion has ever been relevant, it's just that it's unavoidable.

 

Sarcasm? It must be, otherwise it's a silly falsehood.

 

Many claim the Bible is "the word of God" as if it was written by Gods pen.

The world functions on the basis of what is perceived to be true.

There are varying degrees of evidence and one either accepts it or one does not.

There is no way to prove that anything anyone perceives is True because one could claim that it was someones imagination. "Life is but a dream"

This is what I mean by existential nonsense because any debate is rendered meaningless by such arguments.

If you are going to use such arguments then you really have no interest in what is being debated because you do not accept any evidence as reality because nothing can be proved, including your own existence.

 

The more knowledge accumulated the less we need an imaginary god to fill the gaps.

It is so much more honest to say "we don't know all the answers" rather than falsely claim otherwise.