So you thought that sex was binary with a strict division between male and female

Nah, if you had a point and a definition, you should be able to use your own words.

 

But society is not doing the genital surgery nor recommending to have it done.
By and large, society, at least those not explicitly opposed, leaves it up to the person, doctor, and family.

 

And yet you still need a female egg and a male sperm.

2 ingredients -a binary- to procreate.

We are a binary species. Defects do not define us

 

The point is clear.

Now you're just trolling. I "should" be able to engage with mature and honest posters who don't ask me to prove the obvious.

I hope you don't need a definition of "engage," "mature" and "obvious."

 

A mature honest poster would give a definition of something they are claiming. Else the poster is just trolling.

It's not obvious. If it was I would not need what you claim to be fully functional breasts.

Just having mammary tissue to me doesn't qualify. Males can get extra mammary tissue, especially as they age and lose testosterone.

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Enlarged breasts in men (gynecomastia)

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Gynecomastia (guy-nuh-koh-MAS-tee-uh) is an increase in the amount of breast gland tissue in boys or men, caused by an imbalance of the hormones estrogen and testosterone. Gynecomastia can affect one or both breasts, sometimes unevenly.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gynecomastia/symptoms-causes/syc-20351793

 

I don't know why I try, but this may help you.
Maybe.

"The mammary gland is a highly evolved and specialized organ present in pairs, one on each side of the anterior chest wall. The organ's primary function is to secrete milk."

 

How ever they DO exist and your declaration that we are a “binary species still does not alter the fact that there is a spectrum

 

Yep! So? Los of women either cannot produce milk normally or need to comp feed OR, due to the lack of paid maternity leave, choose bottle feeding over breast feeding - are those women “less”?

 

There is no spectrum. Only defects. How we procreate defines our species as a binary. There is 2 sexes. 2 ingredients. Can't escape it.

 

Your word offense is irrelevant. You've been given no sanction over my words. They might be an issue in your mind but apart from that I do not care.

I completely destroyed the premise of the OP. Your counterpoint is to call that "stupid". I guess when being offended and calling it stupid doesn't work you'll resort to what... calling me a poopyhead?

 

Basically all this translates to is, "if I do, I'll destroy my argument, so I'll just claim that it should be clear, obvious and common sense."

 

Ok then since the defects do not qualify as male or female, what do they put on the questionnaire when asked male or female?

 

Pot, kettle, achromatic

Hardly. Basically all you've claimed is that any science that doesn't agree with you can't be science. Would "counterproductive" be a better word for you? Because when we argue that transgender people are the exceptions to the rule, all you seem to be able to do is try to argue that they are not, thus they can't be.

 

The one that their genitalia is more developed in trying to be.

 

So to be clear, the person with the XY chromosomes, who was born with a vagina, is to be a woman, even if they feel more like a man?

 

"feel" I'm starting to see the err in your logic.

My son felt like he was kanine for a bit...did that make him a dog?

 

Yes, correct.
Is that your definition of a fully functional breast? That is all I want clarified.

And if so, male also have fully functional breasts.

 

No, the term today is 'furry'.

But for trans people, they have the brain functions of the opposite sex than their physical sex organs.

 

No, it means it's self evident from the first time I said it.

Life is short, but do troll away if you must.

 

There's a quote function and in this case you're not using it because I never said that. Strawman argument.

No you need to raise a real counterpoint rather than just being offended by my argument.

An exception to the rule helps prove the rule. The rule is sex is a binary. The exception to that rule a a miniscule percentage and can be tested to determine their intersex state via proper medical diagnosis. There is NOTHING about feelings involved with that. Intersex is not the same as transgender. Sex is not a spectrum. Some people want to argue that to try to justify their attempt to decouple their mental state from their biology. However biology is reality and it states that sex for humans is a binary, not a spectrum.

Those are just the facts. Any replies that make up quotes, discuss my motivations, attempt to shame or blame using your feelings of being offended, etc are just nonsense.

 

Typically anything outside of make and female are infertile or sterile and don't really alter the binary. These are defects.

 

Somehow I knew it wouldn't help. I did try.

 

Bunkum!
This is on the same level of truth as the claim that there are more people killed in plane crashes than by guns

 

1.7% and more being found weekly. That means intersex is more common than red hair. Not all are sterile but then you would know that if you watched any of the video resources I posted

 

How many intersexed people do you need outside of a male and female are needed to procreate if it's none they aren't a sex.

Sits by statement here was absolutely 100% factual if you thought argue it no matter how hard you try thanks for your vote of confidence another post that you're referencing incorrectly