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  1. Giftedone

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    In what world can anything be proven to someone who denies objective reality ?
     
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    In YOUR world, where you must render your own interpretation of anything and everything someone says or writes.
     
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    Oh! You are not in that group of "others"? Interesting. Aside from that, you want to dismiss my evidence simply because it points a finger directly at you as one of those 'others' who have made that claim. BTW: I found that on Google... https://www.google.com/search?newwi...j7.7.0....0...1c.1.47.serp..9.0.0.HkQWk6IbAzk

    Quite a long listing of postings on the PF where schizophrenia have been mentioned across nearly all the sections of the PF.

    So, go ahead and stand in denial of your own words. Pathetic.
     
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    Making up nonsense and attributing it to me does not change the fact that nothing can be proven to someone who denies objective reality.
     
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    What is pathetic is you had to go back 3 years to find one quote. 3 years :no:

    Yet you happily will say that that crank and\or others have "labeled Christians as schizophrenics".

    I do not deny my quote from 3 years ago. I refuting YOUR claim that that crank and\or others have "labeled Christians as schizophrenics". And the only PROOF you show is a quote from 3 years ago. That's pathetic.

    PS: just because Google has grouped schizophrenia and christians together, doesn't mean they are in the same post. In fact, a quick glimpse and the two are hardly found together in the same post. That is your PROOF? like you said: Pathetic
     
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    You see that "and/or" highlighted above. Do you have a comprehension of what that means? It means 'inclusively' OR 'exclusively'. The key word being "or" Do you know what that word means?

    As for you PS... you seemingly did not check out the links listed. Some of them are statements written by some theists pointing in the direction of Atheists being schizophrenics... so it is not exclusive linking Christians and Schizophrenia... but members of both sides of the religious fence. What happened to your scientific approach? Did it get lost somewhere in the trauma of having your own words bite you on the butt?
     
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    Then please provide an unequivocal and irrefutable definition of 'reality'.
     
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    Reality is "something that is real" :)
     
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    The unreality of reality shows us what is unreal within the realistic view of being real.
     
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    Then what is "real"?
     
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    Your first six words above are a complete contradiction making the remaing portion senseless.
     
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    There is so such thing as contradiction when there is complete symmetry.

    And everything in this universe is symmetrical.
     
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    Now that statement I truly love. Everything in this universe is symmetrical. Gee.. the "Bible" is in this universe, therefore there is nothing in the 'Bible' that is in contradiction.
     
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    Nope. You see a grain of sand on a beach, it might seem like a contradiction to you because it has a different patter. So therefore it is a contradiction to you.

    But that grain of san will have the pattern repeated elsewhere on the beach.

    That is the universe.

    And in our universe we have matter and antimatter, but even they are not a contradiction to each other, for theya re a part of the symmetry that is our universe.
     
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    Preumption on your part as it relates to me. The use of the word "might" clearly indicates the uncertainty in your claim.

    Show PROOF of your claim relating to the existence of "antimatter". Not scientific speculation or theory... but tangible PROOF.
     
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    Why you yourself are absolute proof. Did you know you were made from anti matter? Which means of course somewhere on another earth there is another you made out of regular matter.
     
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    Now that is an interesting conundrum. "you" would relate to me as who I recognize me to be. "yourself" would relate to that physcial body in which I inhabit. Now in your second statement (question) you pose the problem of identifying "you" (not the physical body) being made of something that is not matter or something that is in opposition to matter. Then your third statement relates to a condition of existence of "another earth". Has it been proven that there is another 'earth'? Nope.. Sheer speculation on your part.
     
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    Ixnay.

    You are antimatter.

    That is a god given fact.

    To deny this logical fact is to deny god.

    Fosd loces you, you know. He has a purpose for you and it will fit into the symmetry that is you and your soul.

    Which, oddly enough, is not antimatter.

    so how could your physical body be made of antimatter but the soul be matter.

    Somewhere there is another one of this.
     
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    Show PROOF (tangible) of your claim, else take your fantasies to another section of the forum where it would receive a more welcomed acceptance ... such as the Science section of the PF.

     
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    I'm not making a claim, it is you who are denying the facts. The proof is within YOU my friend, for it states that god created the heavens and the earth. That's heaven's, plural. Matter and anti matter came from that. Ans since YOU are made of antimatter with a matter soul, you do know that within all those atoms within you. is another universe to where there is another you, except your soul is made from antimatter and your phyhsical bod is made from matte.

    You are totally symmetrical my friend, and that is the proof YOU deny. It's entirely logical.

    And logic is sheer symmetry. Just like you. Just like the heavens and the earth.
     
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    Show tangible PROOF of your now several claims. Else you are doing nothing but letting your mouth overflow with empty and meaningless words. Meaningless, because they have no substance...
     
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    You ARE the proof my antimatter friend.
     
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    Your statement is not a PROOF of anything other than you knowing how to manipulate a keyboard. Your statement is an assertion and one that is devoid of any substantial evidence that would support your claim. Try again.
     
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