There is no Omnipotence Paradox

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  1. Incorporeal

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    Name one thing that is not included in the phrase "all things".

    Ask God. Certainly He knows the answer.


    What is "good"? Is it not true that the term 'good' is ambiguous? Ask 100 people what is "good", and you will get 100 different answers.



    Again, what is 'good'?


    Now you KNOW the mind of God? Where did you meet God? When did you meet God? How did you come to KNOW the mind of God?
     
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  3. Incorporeal

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    Except when you have already specifically stated that you do like that idea. To then turn around and say that you dis-agree with it is a contradiction of your own words. Try a little hemlock in your tea. . . it might clear the confusion in your mind.
     
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    Your the one that brought up the 'imagination'. I was just responding to your question. He can do all things. No controversy here.

    You say He doesn't need to. Why? How do you know what God's purpose and plan is in creation? God is not picking anything. He creates and forms His plan. Evil is manifested and God is good and judges evil.

    Quantrill
     
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    God does not look into the future. He knows the future as He has planned the future.

    Quantrill
     
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    I wanted to mention for anyone who may not be aware, DO NOT put hemlock in ANYTHING as it is highly poisonous.

    He basically just said, "go kill yourself".

    You are despicable, Inc. You should be perma-banned for that.
     
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    Making 2+2=5. This is not a real action. It is an action if action means real action or idea of action. It is not an action if action means possible or real action.

    Since God can do all things (that can be done, or are real) then God cannot make 2+2=5.



    He never answers his phone.




    Ask the bible what good is.





    Its all in God's book....




    I believe he wrote a book....
     
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    There is a lot of controversy over the definition of omnipotence and many Christians actually agree with me.

    Since God is omnipotent, he can do all he needs to without evil. If he can't, he wouldn't be omnipotent by your definition because there would be something he cannot do. When you create and form a plan you are picking things. I am sorry. That is just what happens.

    If evil is manifested from God's plan, he should have seen that and picked a better plan. Patching it all up at the end is just not good enough for someone who is omnipotent and all knowing.
     
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    And I choose a third, regardless of what I was "offered." You know this.

    Please stop feigning stupidity.
     
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    Once again, Inc throws up his hands and asserts "magic."
     
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    Thus asserting that the Islamo-Christian salvation scheme is a farce.
     
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    Islam and Christianity both presuppose an incompetent God who either cannot plan well, or whose plan continuously goes astray. The Bible is a catalog of points at which God treated the universe like a giant etch-a-sketch, starting over when things go badly wrong.
     
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    Now be serious WKA. Where do you see my assertion of "magic"? Have you been nibbling on mushrooms again? Having hallucinations which make you think you are seeing someone throwing up their hands and making some ridiculous assertions.
     
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    More hallucinations. Wow! Dude you need some help.
     
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    Well the bible does say God is timeless. Probably he just isn't good with taking care of problems in a timely fashion because he has no concepts of times. What is the difference to him if he destroys evil tomorrow or in ten thousand years?
     
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    Here:

    That comment is an explicit appeal to magic, arbitrarily asserting that God has some otherwise inexplicable capability to violate the known laws of nature... to include the unchallenged empirical axiom that nature is logical.

    "Magic" by any name.
     
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    Mine will be a strategic conversion. Just like I am currently Baptist, but still commit the same sins I always have and don't believe in God.
     
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    Here's a mindbender, Inc.: What if I was to become an Atheistic Calvinist? One who simply accepts that I am not a part of the Elect and am unable to believe in God and Jesus's divinity?
     
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    LOL I never saw the 2nd part of that two-parter! Did he make it, or did he injure himself like when he jumped the cars on his bike?
     
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    Just trying to be nice about it. I truly hope you are here only for entertainment and don't expect to win any new converts.
     
  21. Incorporeal

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    Conversions is not my problem. That task belongs to the Holy Spirit. As for winning anything,,,,, I am certainly not here for the purpose of attempting to win any friends. That should be obvious. Though, I have made a few friends on this forum and have met some wonderful Brothers and Sisters in Christ.
     
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    That would be your personal and private business and would not make any difference in the price of tea in China as far as I am concerned.
     
  23. Incorporeal

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    Not much of a Baptist then are you? Have you also made that same announcement to the congregation of your church? Give it whirl one day.
     
  24. Incorporeal

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    I ask you again, where do you see the word "magic" within the text of mine that you have quoted? You don't? Well, that would mean that if there is any "magic" involved, then that "magic" exists only in your mind, and you are attempting to assign that "magic" to me as though I had alluded to any "magic". So if you want to deal with "magic" then I would suggest that you get involved in one of those occult or pagan or wiccan forums. I know of no "magic" that is being practiced on this forum.
     
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    No controversy with the Christians I know.

    God can do all things, yes. Its not a question of 'picking'. God does not look for a better plan. His plan is always the better and only plan. Thats just the way it is.

    There is no patching up at the end. There is the completion and fulfillment at the end.

    Quantrill
     

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