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Tokyo Olympics: Kiwi weightlifter Laurel Hubbard to become first transgender athlete to compete at t

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  1. ToughTalk

    ToughTalk Well-Known Member

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    I look forward to the reaction to his winning a gold in the female's category. Should be a hoot!
     
    ToughTalk, Jun 21, 2021
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  2. Andrew Jackson

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    No worries.

    That story is 2 years old.
    And, shortly after that, Gregory was stripped of the records.

    Transgender weightlifter stripped of titles after organization says she can’t compete as woman

    https://globalnews.ca/news/5274675/...r-stripped-of-titles-cant-compete-as-a-woman/

    PS--A small bit of follow-up research can be helpful in these sort of discussions.
     
    Andrew Jackson, Jun 21, 2021
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  3. Darth Gravus

    Darth Gravus Banned

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    Doubtful he will even make the medal stand.
     
    Darth Gravus, Jun 21, 2021
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Emotions are running a little high and they’re the wrong emotions.


    US Olympic athlete Chelsea Wolfe threatened to burn flag on podium

    BMX Freestyle rider Chelsea Wolfe identifies as a trans woman


    BMX Freestyle rider Chelsea Wolfe, who qualified as an alternate to represent the U.S. at this year's summer Olympics in Tokyo, said last year that her goal was to win an Olympic medal "so I can burn a US flag on the podium."

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-olympic-athlete-chelsea-wolfe-burn-flag-podium
     
    Steve N, Jun 21, 2021
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  5. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would imagine a lot of countries that aren’t into this sort of thing would be upset if one of their athletes just missed out on a medal because this guy won. China seems to have the world by the gonads these days, you watch how fast things change if their female athletes lose to men.
     
    Steve N, Jun 21, 2021
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  6. Andrew Jackson

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    No worries.

    Alternates rarely compete at the Olympics.
    Most of them are just there in case someone gets hurt.

    Tl;Dr-- There is ZERO Chance (NONE) that Wolfe will get anywhere near the Medal Stand.

    ^    Thus, given that REALITY, I would suggest that Fox (and others) look elsewhere for today's Mock Outrage material.
     
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    Google "Sex Reassignment Surgery Market Statistics 2020-2026"...growing business, good investment.....just like the ADHD industry. Check it out, make you want to puke. :puke:
     
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    This is a slap in the face for all the women that trained hard. This is cheating.
     
    Doofenshmirtz, Jun 21, 2021
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    I am a senior citizen now and like all men my testosterone level has gone down. Does that mean I am becoming a woman?

    Bad for forcing women to compete with him because he could not compete against the men.
     
    Bluesguy, Jun 21, 2021
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Facts not in evidence. Does he have a Y chromosome?
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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  12. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes he is quite old to be competing, I'll ask you

    I am a senior citizen now and like all men my testosterone level has gone down. Does that mean I am becoming a woman?
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    They should have to put a (T) next to his name and any other men competing as women and then let's watch how all the top spots fill with names followed by the (T).
     
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    Do you want to become a woman?
     
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    My position, which has been stated many times on this forum (and is well-known):

    I Adamantly OPPOSE the Participation of Biologically-Born Males in Women's Sports.

    Period!:flagus:
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Why?
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    What does that matter, the measure is the level of testosterone and since mine is falling does that mean I am becoming a woman?

    Burzmali
    How does "feeling" change one physically?
     
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    Because this is not an issue of morality.

    I could be wrong, but I think it is deeper than just the level of testosterone
     
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    Than a women born with the Y chromosome?
    [​IMG]
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    No where in the article does it discuss morality.


    I think that is the main measure what's the other and stop dodging. The treatments are to lower testosterone to a level closer to women, so am I turning into a woman.
     
    Bluesguy, Jun 21, 2021
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    Still, BG, here is the point:

    male to female competitors. Through analysis the impact of maturation in the presence naturally occurring androgens as the level necessary for male development, significant advantages are had, including but not limited to increased body and muscle mass, bone density, bone structure, and connective tissue. These advantages are not eliminated by reduction of serum androgens such as testosterone yielding a potential advantage in strength sports such as powerlifting.
     
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    The article was in the immorality section of the publication, that alone shows they are to biased to be worth reading

    are your estradiol levels also rising?
     
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  23. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    No where in the article does it discuss morality



    I believe it is the testosterone level that is the determining factor.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_verification_in_sports#Chromosome_testing

    So am I becoming a woman?
     
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  24. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes I just read a study, unfortunately I closed the tab, that said a year later the advantages for the men over women was still there and had only slight decreases.
     
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    Exactly.
    Glad to find common ground.:handshake:
     
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