Undervaccinated red states are nowhere near herd immunity as dangerous Delta variant spreads

So, pharmaceuticals created a super huge conspiracy throughout the entire world and only the conspiracy theorists figured it out? Sounds reasonable.

 

The truf is out there!

 

That's not true.

 

Oh this is ridiculous and doesn't warrant a reply folks!

 

huh?
FACT: if everyone were to be vaccinated, the spread of COVID would be stopped overnight! We would be COMPLETELY FREE OF IT. IT WOULD BE OVER.

I wonder where you saw that because all I saw was Trump and Republicans breaking protocols by not wearing a mask.

NOT.
TRUE.

Oh I see. You pretend to be opposed to learning about something entirely new to the world in a trial-and-error method; you demand instant perfection. And why?....so that you can use it as a club to beat those with whom you disagree. Pretty bad dude.

 

You don’t think you ever went out in public with an asymptomatic or presymptomatic cold or influenza infection?

I’m sorry you are not knowledgeable of virology. But lack of knowledge on your part does not make my statement ridiculous.

 

Please provide evidence vaccination would eradicate either Covid-19 or SARS-CoV-2.

Not your unsubstantiated opinion, empirical evidence.

 

I guess you feel so weak on this that you're compelled to resort immediately to insults instead of asking questions to learn what I think.

You're arguing that spreading illness is a right and you don't think that is ridiculous? Ever hear of "quarantine"?

 

All you need do is be informed on the medical statements from medical experts in media. They have been very clear that 100% of new cases of COVID coming into hospitals are people who have not been vaccinated. Are you going to tell me that with your superior knowledge of virology, you don't know this?

 

Your post to me wasn’t insulting? LOL. Did I miss your questions to me. Again LOL.

Yes I’m well aware of quarantine. Is everyone with an infectious disease quarantined? If not my assertion is not ridiculous. You have always had the right to spread influenza, correct?

 

Oh you mean when I said in post 154 that your comments were ridiculous? You find that personally insulting?

A right is granted by law. Law never granted you the right to spread anything. So it's a non-issue. And the idea remains ridiculous.

 

For your info, in this forum, I created numerous Mortality, and Excess Death threads, both Covid and non-covid, AND GUESS WHAT?

The figures I've reported were State's Department of Health & Human Services, and the main reason why? Repubs don't trust CDC numbers/Figures. And IMO, anyone who doesn't trust both State's HHS and CDC Death Counts are ''paranoid sickos'', another term; Conspiracy theorists.

For example;

Alaska's 2020 preliminary death counts and causes of deaths, suicide down from 2019, however;

Excess deaths; We finally have one final count from North Dakota's Health Department

Michigan's Jan 2019 to Jan 2021 Monthly Death Counts

 

Oh, I’m informed. There are numerous reasons you are wrong. Let’s start with the fact not 100% of cases go to a hospital. Didn’t think of that, huh? How many asymptomatic cases resulting from breakthrough infections are even being tested? Do you know what a breakthrough infection is? Do you know the breakthrough infection rate for each vaccine in use in the US? Do you know what sterilizing immunity is and it’s relationship to functional immunity? Do you know the sterilizing efficacy of the measles (MMR) vaccine?

Percentages not your thing? I can find all kinds of claims of 94% to 99.7% of confirmed cases being in unvaccinated.

So let’s hear the answers to my questions. And can we agree your 100% number is inaccurate?

 

Did I say I was insulted? No. How was my reply to you insults? LOL

Law, no law, doesn’t matter. You have the right to spread disease and you have been doing so your whole life. Law can’t grant rights it can only take away or nullify rights. Nobody is stopping you from spreading disease no matter how ridiculous you think your act of spreading disease is.

 

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FDA adds warning to J&J COVID-19 vaccine over links to rare autoimmune disorder. “The U.S. Food and Drug Administration announced a new warning for the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine over its association with an increased risk of Guillain-Barre syndrome, an autoimmune disorder where the immune system damages the nerve cells.”

Only 2.4% of the world population has caught COVID. And while there is only 2.4% change of even catching COVID, there is a 97.6% chance that I'll never be exposed to the risks of COVID. But, if I get vaccinated, there is a 100% chance that I'm exposed to the risks of the vaccine.

We're in the midst of a massive medical experiment. It's very important that we all respect each others' choices.

 

Since when was the goal of vaccination the "eradication" of a disease?

 

It’s not in this case. That’s what I’m trying to point out to the other member. I’ve had to correct MD’s on the difference between herd immunity, eradication and endemic pathogens. I think I’ve got a pretty good handle on this, but thanks.

Of course eradication has happened with rinderpest and smallpox through vaccination campaigns. But they are totally different diseases and vaccines.

 

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I recently heard on local Dallas news that [blue] Dallas County has reached "herd immunity."

Not sure how they calculated that.

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It's been true every single time a dictatorship has risen to power.

It's always under the pretenses of protecting the people.

I'm sure Jewish people and the Weimar Republic said that same thing you just did.

 

I haven't a worry anymore. I have had my shots and all the people I love have had their shots. Even if I get deathly ill from something else, my family will be able to visit me, hold my hand, and hear those last remarks I may have left. Its not just the death, its the total isolation and loneliness of it that is crushing.

 

Data released recently by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention showed over 9,000 reports of deaths for all age groups in the US from the COVID vaccines.

 

Since smallpox

 

Really?
What is the morbidity?

Currently in NSW

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-14/nsw-records-97-new-covid19-cases-lockdown-extended/100291702
Now this is an email so I cannot link

So of the 116 cases 63 are hospitalised and 18 are in ICU that sounds more than 1% but it is the morbidity not the mortality

 

Never mind the CDC, here are Florida's Covid19 figures FROM their Department Of Health and Human Services

New Cases For the past 4 weeks

Jun 11 - Jun 17; 10.463
Jun 18 - Jun 24; 18.804........up
Jun 25 - Jul 1st; 16,031........up
Jul 2nd - Jul 9th; 23,697.......up

New Cases Positivity Rate for the past 4 weeks

Jun 11 - Jun17; 3.3%
Jun 18 - Jun 24; 3.8%..........up
Jun 25 - Jul 1st; 5.2%..........up
Jul 2nd - Jul 9th; 7.8%.........up

Number of Covid19 Deaths

Jul 2nd - Jul 9th; 32
Jul 10th - jul 17th; We shall see
Jul 18th - Jul 24th; We shall see
Jul 25th - Jul 31st; We shall see

http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_p..._archive/covid19-data/covid19_data_latest.pdf

MR. hrhames, do you trust Florida's Department of HHS Covid19 figures?

Also, in the next several weeks, Florida's Department of HHS Covid19 figures will either prove or disprove said CNN Medical Anylyst prediction......Agree or Disagree?

 

Yes, understood.