Was God creating Satan a good idea?

Can't I please just shave it?

 

I myself worry about going dark side..... Satanic?!?!

I am trying not to............... I think I have read some really good remedies to the Satanic mind set in
NDE accounts.

Here is a theory for you..........

imagine Pegasus has another name..... Lucifer?!?!

King Solomon said that horses had a tendency to like warfare.....and charge run into it.....
rather than running away as so many animals might do.....

Imagine Michael and Gabriel as arch-angels who appear as men with wings... but
imagine Lucifer as Pegasus.......

When G-d orders Michael and Gabriel to bow to Adam.... they obey.....
and lead 2/3s of their angels to do so as well......

Lucifer/ Pegasus though is warlike.......

and doesn't want to bow to Adam.... until he can see the "Divine Image" in Adam.......

Lucifer leads his 1/3 of the angels/ Artificial Intelligences of that time period.... to begin
a war........

Lucifer promises though that he will bow to Adam.... when Adam reincarnates... and
comes to bear the divine image......

Moshiach ben Yosef - Ephrayim could be in......

Rev 6:2
And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

Moshiach ben David could be seen in.....

Rev 19:11
And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

The Psalms do say that Messiah comes...."riding on a cherub?!?!"

Psa 18:10
And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: yea, he did fly upon the wings of the wind.

 

Jesus is a loser - letting some Romans define his "greatest message of all time".....clearly Jesus is not divine/all-powerful and watching over us to keep us safe all these years and answering our prayers......but rather a myth like Bigfoot, etc.

 

Seems like god created starving children (or won't help them by just snapping his all-powerful fingers) for his entertainment. Too bad he's such a monster, or most likely he simply doesn't exist.
His priorities are apparently helping people find their car keys (because they "pray to him for that") or helping millionaires score a touchdown.....he's evil.

 

You are correct again. Yes, Jesus was a monster.

I'm glad that you just showed "Greatest I am" that his username isn't actually true.

 

Or......... freedom of choice...... for wealthy and for the poor.......
is part of this human experiment?

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a06

IF..... religious people told the truth about the evidence in support of reincarnation in some form.........
wealthy people might soon change their behavior???

http://www.politicalforum.com/race-...head-past-life-regression-under-hypnosis.html

What is that white guy doin in my head? (Past life regression under hypnosis).
I read both of Helen Wambach Ph. D.'s books back in the '90's and I am convinced that they have the potential to transform race relations.

Well over sixty percent of Dr. Wambach's volunteers were women.... but almost exactly fifty percent of past lives viewed/ perceived.....were of men!

White people see themselves as Black and Japanese and Chinese and Aboriginal in past lives. Roughly ninety percent of past lives viewed would be described as "poor" which is almost certainly not what would happen if people were simply remembering scenes from movies that they viewed as a child or teenager.

http://www.carolmoore.net/articles/helenwambach.html

 

None of that answers the questions I asked....I'll try AGAIN-

In your view...Who created Satan?

Now....does Satan have Free Will? If so....then he can REFUSE to do what God prophecizes he'll do during the End Times.

If he doesn't have Free Will...and God created him?....then he's "God's robot" and God is to blame for his actions.

Choose one.

 

God created everything. And my reply did answer your question of free will.

 

So God created Satan....great. I guess God didn't know how Satan would turn out...or did He?

Which leads to Question #2....does Satan have Free Will...or is he "God's robot"?

 

What your saying is, because God created everything, than the actions of man is all His fault. That makes no sense, simply because your actions are your choices. Adam and Eve did not have to eat the forbidden fruit, they chose to.
One does not have to kill, they choose to. One does not have to smoke cigarettes, they choose to. One does not even have to get a job, they choose to. However our choices leads to consequences, weather they are good or bad. If you need to blame that on God, that is your choice. It does not make it true.

 

In a world of nuclear weapons, scientists playing God, trying to find the reason and creation of life. Tampering with DNA, genetically modifying foods and animals. Having no idea of long term consequences. Smashing particles together at the speed of light, trying to find how it is we came to be. Prescription drugs for those who don't want to cope with reality. Swallowing all these pills that don't cure the problem, just allows people to cope with it. Don't do natural drugs, do theirs. They make a fortune off these drugs, while convincing the people it is a cure.

Detonating nuclear bombs in the ocean, just for a test. Destroying and doing stuff that nobody knows to our food. You think radiation in the ocean leads to zero consequences. Now it is not the kids fault, rather the leaders of the world, and the people who allow them to lead, bowing to what their masters tell them. Unfortunately for those kids, they have to endure what consequences man has presented to the earth. If you want to blame that on God, this kind of behavior will only continue. So while your blaming God, the actual guilty are still playing.

 

so God gets jealous too, in fact he goes by the name jealous according to the bible

if God created Satan and is using him as a test, then yes, God would be to blame

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It's a paradox......EITHER

A. God created Satan and gave Satan free will. Now, this poses TWO problems in itself.

1. If God is omniscient...He KNEW that Satan would rebel, tempt Eve, tempt Jesus, etc. And thus in creating Satan, God deliberately created evil. (Calvinism/Predestination kick in)

If God is not omniscient.....then He's not "God". Because we can imagine a "More Supreme Being" that IS omniscient. Thus God would be a "lesser version".


2. If Satan has Free Will....then Satan can CHOOSE ....NOT to follow through with the "propechies of God about the End Times".....no Mark of the Beast, no persecution of the post-Rapture saved, no attack on Israel.

If Satan refuses to do those things?.....he PROVES "God's prophecies wrong"...and thus?....proves God wrong.




or B. Satan does NOT have Free Will....he's "God's robot". Carrying out programming imparted by God.....which means that GOD was the one who tempted Eve and tempted Jesus in the wilderness. Same as a robot programmer....programming an automaton to act.

 

Blame God all you want. Your excuses are that of satan. Hold your tongue, for we will all be judged. And judged, according to our deeds.

 

In the end times, everything hidden will be revealed. "The veil will be lifted". This includes you and I. With the technology we have now, it will not surprise me if everything we have done on the internet or cell phones, all of it be released to the public. Everyone will be able to see what it is you do on the internet, either good or bad. The powers that be and all the conspiracies that follow, will be revealed.

Your questions can only be answered by God. My answers are just my interpretation, or speculation. To talk to God, you must go through Jesus. It is the only way. To pray to God and not recognize Jesus, is to be unheard. Nobody goes to the Father, but through Jesus.

If you truly want answers, ask Jesus into your heart, give your life to His will. And your questions will be answered. The individual is the only way to prove God, if you choose to not seek God, He will allow it. If you seek Him, He will not only reveal Himself to you, He will also reward you!

 

but god already knew what every single person will ever do. so he created them deliberately knowing they will do what they do. you are forced to take the good with the bad.

it's all gods fault

 

Again, you filibuster and go tangential...but you won't directly answer my questions.

Start with the simple one.....

IN YOUR OPINION....God created Satan (you've admitted that).....does Satan have Free Will or not?

 

Yes, God is a jealous God. There is nothing wrong with being jealous, it's how it effects you and causes poor decisions that matters. satan rebelled in response of his jealousy, therefore he must of done something very evil. God does not let His jealousy create wrong doings. He loves you unconditionally, so when He sees you doing evil or things of satan, it saddens Him, He becomes jealous that you want satans ways, as opposed to His.

God is the creator, the Alpha and Omega. I do not believe He uses satan as a test for us, however if He did, it does not matter. He is the creator, it shall be done His way, or not at all.

Pretend that God is a bad God (just an analogy), if he created everything it does not matter what people think, he is the creator and his will be done however he sees fit.

 

There is no need for an omniscient and omnipotent god to be jealous. None. Zero. Nada.

 

Omnicience is a trap. The Calvinists are the only ones who try to accept it and promote it. Most Protestants and Catholics do not....but in doing that, they refute a key element of the qualities of a "Supreme Being".

IOW, again, "God" cannot be "God"....unless He is omniscient. If He isn't?...He's a "lesser form of God" who's not.

 

Jealousy is a negative emotional state brought about by feelings of inadequacy or low self-esteem.

A man is jealous of his wife's male co-worker's relationship with her (even if benign and just platonic) because the man is feels insecure about HIS relationship with his wife.

If God was "sadden" by someone "choosing Satan's ways"?...that's understandable.

But if God is "jealous" by someone "choosing Satan's ways"?....it means God is worried that His ways or Himself were inadequate or "not good enough."

 

So the leaders of the world, who stop the food and water, ration them as they see fit to the people, is God's fault? The people who sit back and play on the cell phones, television, internet, Hollywood, game consoles, entertainment. Most people in America couldn't tell you who the speaker of the house is, but they could tell you all about the Kardashians. Worshipping at the feet of idols, and you blame God. The people being killed right now in the middle east, getting their heads cut off for their religion, that's God's fault?

Rome called this, "cake and entertainment", give them a variety of foods, and entertainment and they will not care what we do. To you, this is God's fault. Blaming God instead of the willingly deceived people, who allow powers to do as they please, so long as they are entertained. The comfort zone in which we are in, air conditioning, heaters, refrigerators, freezers, running water hot or cold, plumbing, television, cable and internet, all these are things that even the poor have in America. People dying of thirst, while we water our lawns. In America, a plate of food for one, is a plate for two.

The leaders of the world are about unleash hell on earth, and yet nobody knows. For just saying such a thing, you are a freak and a conspiracist. Evil will always prevail, when good men do nothing. Your suggesting God should use His powers and do everything for us. That is not what He gave us. Nor is it His fault for the actions we choose and or allow.

However He did give you the choice to blame Him, and you do.

 

So if you had god's super-powers right now, would you give humanity the cure for cancer right then, jrr777? Please tell us. If not, then obviously you would not answer prayers, either.

Modern Secular Humanists would not only answer "yes" to that question, but would probably answer it this way, because we love humanity far more than religious people do (based on their inability over the years to answer "yes" to that question): "HELL YES I'D GIVE HUMANITY THE CURE FOR CANCER ASAP IF I HAD GOD'S SUPERPOWERS!!!"
Only a person who is only thinking selfishly of themselves would not answer "yes" to that question.

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Innocent children having those parasites burrow into their eyes (blinding them for life), while god sits on his far arse....

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A man far great than Jesus once said "“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”

 

Satan is the answer to a problem that does not support a benevolent, supreme God. Since evil seems to exist and mankind suffered horribly during the era when the OT was created, how could a nice God be so mean? The answer was to create a mean God/Angel, Satan. Then you can blame Satan instead of God. This type of reasoning worked well in those superstitious times when Gods and spirits and demons were a dime a dozen.

 

"infanticidal" always throws the "God hates abortion" "pro-lifers" in a tizzy....when you quote 1 Samuel 15:3.


Isaac Asimov, who wrote a guide to the Bible, said "Properly read, the Bible is the greatest force for atheism every conceived."