Women share their abortion experiences

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Anders Hoveland, Nov 26, 2012.

  1. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    There are also pro choicers that demand that the mother be allowed to terminate her fetus at any point in the pregnancy, even right up to the time of birth.
    The fact that there are pro choicers who support partial birth abortions on healthy babies is undeniable.
    What is especially revealing is the fact that feminist organisations weren't phased in the least by the horrors of salt water abortions. The only reason salt water abortions fell out of favor was the fact that it caused many of the mothers to die in droves.
     
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    And if you would look at the actual research instead of the propaganda put out by pro-life you would find that, just as we have been saying for a long long time, the vast majority of late term abortions are done because of FOETAL abnormality. The Trisomies, twin to twin transfusions, Neural tube defect etc etc etc
     
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    Yes because they want women to be able to decide to terminate in cases of severe abnormality

    Women do not wake up one morning over a cup of coffee and decide that the foetus they have carried for seven months just is not worth the inconvenience
     
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    You wouldn't think so, but it happens all the time, apparently. Maybe the woman loses her job, breaks up with her boyfriend, even has a midlife crisis. Many a woman has sought abortion after an unexpected career opportunity presents itself, when the woman realises that she won't be able to both be a mother and persue her full time dream job.

    http://kellyclinger.com/2012/08/11/we-cant-handle-the-truth-about-abortion/


    According to a survey (2005) in the Journal of Perspectives of Sexual and Reproductive Health, these are the reasons why women have late-term abortions:

    45% had "trouble" finding abortion provider :roll:

    37% unsure of date of last menstrual period

    68% had no pregnancy symptoms

    58% Didn’t comfirm pregnancy until in second trimester

    30% had difficulty deciding on abortion

    31% had previous second trimester abortion


    The survey did not cite a single case of fetal abnormality.
     
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    I Want My Baby Back...

    "I thought I was doing the best thing for my child. I knew he was a baby, living inside of me. After pleading and begging my child's father to reconsider, I gave up and scheduled the procedure. Everyone stated the procedure was akin to having wisdom teeth removal.

    They promised relief but all I had was misery and despair. I wanted my baby back but it was much too late for that. I can not describe adequately the emptiness I felt. I came in swollen and full of life and left fragmented, broken, and empty. I have been a wreck. I could barely get out of bed from the grief. I would wake up, shower, and return to bed. I could not work. All I could do was cry, and sob, and weep. The emotional pain engulfed me like a tidal wave. I wanted to die. A part of me did die, and not just my baby. I am forever changed. I have been battling depression ever since.

    I am having the hardest time getting over my maternal instincts and bond with my baby. I knew it was the killing of a baby. Just not My baby. I struggle with what type of mother/father kills her/his own baby? She/he is clearly unfit to ever parent. I wonder about my fertility now and if I will ever have children. Now all I want is a baby. Before this ordeal, all I wanted was a husband.

    I know a couple of women in my family who claim to be not affected by their abortions but they all display other issues. My cousin is very promiscuous and takes Plan B like birth control. My sister has been in counseling. Another cousin is abusing drugs. No problems, huh?

    I was pro choice before my abortion, I am pro-life now. The baby is not meant to be viable outside the mother during the first trimester. He is meant for our womb. That's its purpose."


    http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Had-An-Abortion/575472
     
  6. Bowerbird

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    Learn something - blogs are not worth the computer space they take up - it is someone's opinion and as such no more valid than yours or mine - well in actual fact LESS valid because I know I am not being paid to do this

    As for your "survey" - once again I will post and tell you it is NOT about "late term abortion" it is about SECOND TERM ABORTION

    HERE is the original research http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3811806b.html

    So let us look at the bits left out by the pro-lifers

    Read the article - it has been cherry picked to a fare thee well
     
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    We've been through this before, Anders, i.e. your calling second trimester abortions "late-term" abortions. Late-term abortions are third trimester abortions. Once, I might think you were simply mistaken, but doing it again indicates intentional misdirection.
     
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    Pasithea said,

    Does it matter the reason? I could have very well had my baby...my mother knew and I made the choice, no pressure. Today I take responsibility...for the inhumane, immoral thing I did. It was not for health reasons...not for rape....or incest. I didn't want a baby. And I am married the that babies father. No reason is good enough..for abortion.

    No one is forced. We live in America and we can decide for ourselves. To blame others is to not take responsibility. Do you think that they would perform an abortion on a woman who was screaming that she was being forced? You sign papers......

    I was raised a Christian and was a believer but I did not walk. I did not possess a Christlike worldview. The Bible was not my source of morality, the world was. I thought I could follow both. Had I read the Bible at the time....? Not all, parts. We went to the Presbyterian Church a place where not many people even open the bible to read. I knew deep inside it was wrong...but I was in college (1974) and at that time....I did not know anything about the unborn in the womb....that the heart beat started at 20 days, etc. It was a little blob....being aborted before it became human and important. You guys think this way. I was one of you but a believer.
    I suffered however after I had my own children..particularly after my sister had her little girl at 23 1/2 weeks. I became depressed...thought about suicide. I remember looking at her right after she was born...they did not think she would make it. A nurse said...look how little she is and yet people abort at this gestational age. I went into the bathroom and had my first panic attack. At that moment my life flashed before my eyes and I was not the same. They guilt was overwhelming. My husband did not share my pain and thought I was being ridiculous. I went to therapy for years and it almost broke my marriage up. He is not a believer so that made it even worse. But today he completely understands...he is a believer but not a walker but even he knows the science end of this and knows what I did, we did was wrong.


    I started reading the Bible more and in 2001 I accepted Christ and was baptized. I started working for Right to Life...and doing work with Silent No More. When I read what the Bible had to say about life and connected it to everything else....it was clear.

    I regret the abortion I had because it was a human life I killed my children. I did not have two children....I have three. I caved into what society said was right and not what God says. And my sin splashed on many people not to mention the child I killed.



    I might not have seen it. I have not been on much lately..my uncle is under Hospice care and I am also a care giver. Right now he is my priority.
    I believe that God had a plan for my life...of course I believe in free will and God did not cause my abortion to happen...I did. I have no clue nor do I care what might have happened. I did wrong...so had I done right...the outcome would have altered not only my life but others.
    Would I have had two children? Three.....who knows? I did wrong, I do know that.

    You think had I not had the abortion I would not have had my second child. Does not matter...I did wrong.

    She made the choice to abort.

    You do what is right. And abortion is not right. Whatever she might have done does not matter she did it and needs to own up to it as that...killing a living human child. You want her to feel better about it......so you are making excuses....for her actions.


    What we do affects us and others. Of course it changes us...for good and bad. We live with what we do. So?

    I might have had my second...but then since I had no children at the time I might have stopped after the one I killed.

    I also might have had six. It does not matter....I did wrong.
     
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    You need to stop beating yourself up over it, CM. What is done is done, and you can't change it. Would your life be better if you hadn't had your abortion? Maybe, but maybe not. You made the wrong decision for yourself, but millions of other women have made the right decision for them.
     
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    I am not beating myself up over this. Since Christ came into my life things changed believe me. I live for Him.....not what the world says. It does not matter what my friends or family says ....I look to God for the answers, to guide my life. I have forgiven my self, God has forgiven me. But I do know this...not all women are this lucky. Sure there are women who are fine with the decision they made...but I believe the majority are not. And we will never know how many because this is a subject that is still hushed. The majority of women who have had an abortion/abortions will not come out and admit it. They live in private shame.
     
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    It is odd that I am the only one here that will share...who have had one. Statistics would say there should be many many more.
     
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    Well I'd gladly share my own abortion story if I had one. I have never been pregnant that I know of.

    I did have an experience once with the morning after pill. It was the third time I ever had sex with my boyfriend at the time. The condom broke and we both freaked out, he got up and threw up that's how scared he was. The next morning I went to a family planning clinic (not PP, I forget the name of the place). I was two weeks away from turning 18 and they said they couldn't give me the pill without parental consent. I pleaded with them though and explained I was this close to being 18 and asked if my boyfriend who was 18 at the time could sign off for it and eventually they gave the ok. I saw a doctor and she discussed birth control options with me and recommended I get on some form of hormonal birth control as soon as possible and she gave me a morning after pill prescription.

    This is when I found out I was extremely sensitive to estrogens/progestins. I woke up about 4 am the next day, the night before I had finished taking my dose of emergency contraception and I could not stop puking. My stomach was just a mess like it wouldn't stop doing flips inside of me. I was vomitting/dry heaving for about 7 hours that day and I finally told my mother everything and she freaked out. Needless to say she took me to the doctor the next day and they put me on the pill. However I couldn't take that either because my body just reacted to it the same way as the morning after pill. They got me on a very low dose and I was ok for a few years. I was 20 when I went off the pill (had no boyfriend at the time, wasn't sexually active and didn't see the point in spending $30 a month on it).

    The last time I tried the pill was about a year ago and it made me sick again, even the very low dose. So hormonal birth control is sadly just not an option for me.
     
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    When someone has to resort to dividing the world into "me" and "those others who are not as good as me" then I suggest they are not really OK with themselves and should look to those factors within that give satisfaction instead of measuring themselves against others

    "Go placidly amid the noise and haste and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story.
    Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexatious to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter; for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desiderata
     
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    Isn't it wonderful that men do not have to take pills?? That is what blows me away about all the men who come on this forum and blame women for pregnancy
     
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    The morning after pill.......yea.

    It is emergency contraception that women use up to 72 hours after sex that suppresses ovulation and thins the walls to prevent implantation.

    http://www.morningafterpill.org/2008/05/morning-after-pill-or-morning.html

    You could have been pregnant..you could have been a mother...you will never know...but don't count it out.
     
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    The morning after pill.......yea.

    It is emergency contraception that women use up to 72 hours after sex that suppresses ovulation and thins the walls to prevent implantation.

    http://www.morningafterpill.org/2008/05/morning-after-pill-or-morning.html

    You could have been pregnant..you could have been a mother...you will never know...but don't count it out.
     
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    These women are living with the personal consequences of their choices, just like we all do when we have to choose between options that all carry negatives. What you posted here in absolutely no way puts forth any type of evidence that abortion should be illegal, or that anyone has the right to dictate to a woman what she is and is not allowed to do with her own body.

    This is an emotional appeal, and that's it. There's no shortage of those anywhere, about just about any issues you can think of.

    Secondly, you posting this refutes nothing, because I've not seen anyone on this forum try to say that abortions are harmless and carry no emotional consequences. It's a personal decision that each woman will deal with in their own unique way. Some will have an easier time than others, some will have a hard one.
     
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    Maybe

    Maybe if I had invested with Apple way back when I might be a millionaire by now

    Maybe if I had flown to England I might have nabbed a Prince

    Maybe if I had worked at Woolworth's I would now be the CEO of the company

    Life is what it is not what it might have been - no attempt to make someone regret decisions will validate a stance preventing those very decisions
     
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    Bowerbird said,

    I am perfectly fine with myself. LMAO And I have never said I am better than anyone else. I do believe at this point my morals are better. In the case of abortion...my certainly are better than yours. And the fact that not many women are here discussing this...who want to out themselves shows that abortion is still considered immoral. There is right and there is wrong....too bad you can't differentiate between the two.

    Why do you lurk around abortion sites....? Odd I find it.....very odd.


    It makes my stomach turn to even think of you saying the words...peace and truth and spiritual and morality. IMO...your position is so immoral that as I have said before I can't imagine what else you might condone. Abortion is aggressive, invasive and vexatious to the spirit... There are those whose spirits have the capability to see wrong...to see and feel compassion...to recognize evil...and then there are those spirits that are hard that goodness can not penetrate.

    It is funny because you compare yourself to pro-lifers all the time. Practice what you preach.....my dear.




    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desiderata[/QUOTE]
     
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    You might have been a mother......wow.
     
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    Yeah. I do hope they make a male birth control pill or shot sooner or later though, then my fiance can try it and hopefully it won't make him sick like it does me. xD
     
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    Certainly no more worse than a fertilized ova being expelled from the uterus naturally.

    I coulda if only a fertilized ova attached to my uterus and there is no guarantee that I even had one.

    Besides that I won't even consider myself a mother until I actually give birth to my first child.
     
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    Did not say that

    And that is the problem when people do not respond the way you THINK they should - have to get back to a script even if yours bears no resemblance to what everyone else is reading
     
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    Yes only you would abort her child at nine months
     
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    That will still leave the responsibility with the woman its her body...remember.
     

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