Florida Republicans introduce 3 new bills to expand state's 'Don't Say Gay' law

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  1. SiNNiK

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    Ultimately, invariably, they don't want equal rights, they want special privilege.
     
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    Excellent!

    Every day I have greater respect for Gov. DeSantis
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Someone else called it a success, so I said it was a success only on the sense which I described.

    Sure. He panders to the authoritarian base, and its working as can be seen from your response.
     
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    There is nothing authoritarian about Gov. DeSantis. I'm sorry losing is affecting you this way.
     
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    Human nature, sadly.
     
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    The only move toward authoritarianism I see in the U.S. belongs to the current administration. If I were younger, it would scare me.
     
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    They seem to think authoritarian government requires a one men tyranny, a caudillo or dictator. They're wrong, an authoritarian government can just as easily be a government system of interlocking weaponized departments and agencies dedicated to protecting their own political beliefs and punishing by any means necessary anyone or anything they see as a threat to their control. That is the heart and soul of the Democratic Party.
     
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    It is the heart and soul of politicians of both stripes. The people from which the voters can choose as leaders are only those with a lust for power. Normal people won't put up with the political gauntlet to be elected. Once they have the power, they use it and teach their employees how to use it. At least it is better than dictatorship.
     
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    DeSantis is the head of the Florida admin, and it is very authoritarian indeed. Heck he is being nick-named "Caudillo", which is Spanish for a dictator. Using his office to punish cruise lines, schools, Disney, hotels, restaurants, banning abortion etc, and all the 'woke' laws is authoritarian BS, but if it appeases you then so be it. There ARE people who like bigger governments and a moral police. Unfortunately for DeSantis, most Americans are not amused. I don't think he will win the GOP primaries. Trump is actually playing it smart by not promoting authoritanism, even though he is an authoritarian too. He knows its not the winning ticket.

    What did I lose, and what does it have to do with me?
     
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    You've lost your credibility.
     
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    At the beginning of his rule, 40% of Chileans were in poverty, at the end, 20%.
     
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    20% is a lot of poverty.
     
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    De Santis is no caudillo. He is an enemy of wokeness and the only person in the country that I see doing something about it. Ridding the culture of wokeism is not only positive, it is necessary. If you want to see actual authoritarianism look at the white house. They want to tell me what kind of car to buy and they are harming the economy in the process of dictating it to us. They even want to tell me what kind of stove I can buy. All De Santis is doing is fighting wokeness. If I were a voter I would vote for him.
     
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    His actions pretty much define the word.

    Using the authority of his office to attack cruise lines, schools, hotels, restaurants, and even private people, or anyone who disagrees with his political views is trademark authoritarian leadership aka Caudillo. Telling businesses what they can and cannot say is Caudillo. Calling everything 'woke', or calling statue of Michelangelo 'porn' is borderline insane, and very Caudillo. Criminalizing things he doesn't like is Caudillo. Removing elected officials and replacing them with political appointees is Caudillo, or worse, - commie.

    That is literally ALL he does, while bigger issues are ignored. Florida has become one of the least affordable States to live in, and we have an insurance crises, etc, and all he does is play morality police. Enough already!.

    All authoritarian big government minded people WILL vote for him, but I don't think we have enough such people for him to win.
     
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    You throw around words that make you feel better. Hope it helps.
     
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    Nothing like a Christian version of the Taliban.
    And lots of people support it too.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its not about how I feel. Forget about party loyalty for a while, and open your eyes and see what is happening.

    People can be manipulated to support anything. All you have to do it press the right buttons and they will think any action is needed or necessary to save the country from some kind of evil. Every dictator have their supporters. Usually they get people to think they are under attack from actual enemies, so this 'woke' think being the greatest evil is almost comical, which was evidenced by Michelangelo statue being labeled as pornography.


    "Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country" - Hermann Goering
     
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    It only works for the confused people.
    Normal people know the truth.
    The truth is that any kind homosexuality and wokeness has nothing to do with government, so government should get rid of it as soon as possible.
    That is exactly what governor DeSantis is doing.
     
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    If its none of governments business, then why is Florida government 100% involved in policing homosexuals and 'woke', and how could you possibly support the gov being involved and with the same breath claim they should not be involved?

    Slow down and listen to yourself.
     
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    When they started focusing on the children, they got the gov't involved.

    Leave the kids alone.
     
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    LOL. They target cruise lines, hotels, restaurants, schools, amusement parks, lawyers, school boards, and every business in the State has to comply with their demands.

    You can't have it both ways. Either you want the government micromanaging everything, or you don't.

    Besides, "think about the children" is an old bleeding heart liberal talking point. Heh-heh.
     
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    I have no party loyalty. I don't even approve of political parties. I see a popular governor who won re-election in a landslide who is fighting wokeness. That is a very good thing. In fact it is critical.

    Some people can. Others cannot.

    So you think I am the victim of conservative propaganda. That gave me a chuckle as did your choice of a person to quote. Sorry. Good thing you aren't persuaded by liberal propaganda, huh?
     
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    Half as much as before That doesn't sound like utter failure to me
     
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    I see you're taking Herr Goerings advice to heart
     

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