Men - What do you propose to do to effectively reduce the abortion rate?

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You need to learn to comprehend what you read. I said that your posts and those of other abortion promoters explain the need for legal abortion in terms of women being too stupid to avoid risks that lead to pregnancy!

It is YOU who call them stupid.

 

The argument is just as valid or just as stupid either way!

 

Nope, it was clearly in your post. Can't spin your way out of that one.

 

Abortion is not a man's problem. It's all women, unless the man is trying to force the woman to have one.

So on that note, your thread title is a joke.

The only way a man can help do anything here, is to raise his daughter(s) with a moral code that teaches them to be responsible for their actions. People who are mature enough to understand that concept are less likely to kill their own flesh and blood out of convenience. Preach abstinence until marriage. Make sure your girls know and understand sleeping around will not be tolerated and leads to disease, low self esteem, medical costs they can't afford and don't need, etc, etc, etc.

 

Keep your legs close if you can't risk impregnation.

Simple as that. Women are the guardians at the sweet luscious gate of venus. As much as we want in, it aint happening if you say no. Rare excepetions, but you get the idea.

 

What and deny men their "rights"

And this is EXACTLY the attitude that I am objecting to - why is it that women have to "keep their legs closed" but men should not "tie it in a knot"

 

Suggest you read it again - and my reply

but even so - given that there are so many more female contraceptives than male it was not an unreasonable statistic

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_contr_use.html

Especially since only 16% of women rely on male condom to achieve contraception

 

And your "boys"? Are you going to hold them to the same standard?

Of course not! Just pat them on the back if they go screw a woman or two because that proves they are MEN!!

Double standard with a huge helping of misogyny

 

simple...education.

it's easy to see the correlation of educated nations and population decrease, vs. the uneducated nations with populations that are out of control (increase).

as far as unwanted pregnancies go, i got no clue what women want, at times i don't think they know what they want, many women in the 3rd trimester no longer want to be pregnant.

 

One more step and you lock your daughters in the kitchen until you have selected a husband for her that she must marry or else ... . Nice ... .

I am glad I live in the 21st century where it is not her father that I must make a deal with before I can play with her.

 

You may walk in but not be able to walk back out if you come near my daughters with that attitude.

 

You may walk in but not be able to walk back out if you come near my daughters with that attitude.

 

And I look forward towards daddies like you getting beaten (or worse) in prison after you assault people

 

In that case, why don't you just stay out of it and let women deal with it themselves?

 

Women are not responsible, remember? We must have a man make the decision for us! Now back in the kitchen with you!

 

I love people who only operate off of right wing talking points

a) education does have a correlation with birth control but there are a LOT of other factors impacting high third world country birth rates - eg religion in Mexico

b) Women in the third trimester do NOT get abortions because "they no longer want to be pregnant" and if you can find ONE link that supports that statement, that is not a bull(*)(*)(*)(*) pro-life blog then I will donate to this site

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_termination_of_pregnancy

 

So what happens if a couple get married and they don't want to have kids? I guess there is no point in being in any sort of relationship if they can't actually do what a normal couple would do...

 

Don't be silly Mak - don't you know that you gotta teach 'em their place when they are real young!!

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You can't win though. This is what we did in high school 2 years ago. A friend and I went to see these twin girls, and their father started to talk down at us and was gonna get physical. So we decided to chat with the girls' mom. Then we went to see her, and yay we had fun. I didn't carry on with the relationship, but my friend did, and now she is divorcing. But I think the most interesting is that the girls want to go with her to her new place and leave the father. He should have figured that we didn't go to see the girls for drinking and snorting, but for a good time (sex (consential)).

 

That seems to be what most pro abortion folks think!

 

They don't want kids, they shouldn't take the risk.

 

What if someone wants to drive a car but doesn't actually want to move from the spot they are in?

 

Thanks. Yes. That would make me laugh really good, even if in hospital.

 

Ah, so sex is like driving a car now?