Part 12 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Moses age calculated by men after we learn the complexity and science of mathematics. The Bible written at a time when people can not count millions or billions yet. Thanks to our God given gift of intellect we are able later to learn how to calculate the estimated age of this earth and age of Moses.

    Only one way and that is worship Jesus Christ the Son of God. Only you have different or nine ways because you are not a true Christian in fact there are many fake Christians that is why we were warn to be careful of this fake Christians.

    One Book One God One Jesus Christ :pray:

    Baptized and confirm? I doubt it very much your post clearly expose you as a fake Christian. You started as a real Christian then later become a fake Christian "I know the bible is not 100% inerrant word of God or actual history. Even though that is what I was taught".

    Their works was their open and sincere act of repentance it take work to ask for forgiveness and they did just that faith and deeds go hand in hand :pray:

    Both Protestants and Catholics got it right salvation is through Jesus Christ for He is the Light, the Way and the Truth. And that is why the pastor blessed Dahmer and in the name of God you are forgiven and today you will be with God in paradise, amen :pray:
     
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    no, it takes opening your mouth and saying the words. it MIGHT involved a 'thought exercise', but that'd be the extent of it.

    it's about 80 years of hard graft more difficult to live via good works.
     
  3. dairyair

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    I have never deliberately change what people to cover a mistake I made.
    A good christian will admit an error and accept it and learn from it. As well as a good human.
     
  4. Mitt Ryan

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    At one time you claimed you were an ordained minister and so during that time you must have interpreted Scripture correctly and now that you no longer believe, no longer have any faith, you are knowingly interpreting Scripture falsely...how dishonest you have become...shame on you!

    You know very well why God ordered the Israelites to destroy the people in the land that God promised to them.

    The conquest of the Holy Land was actually made possible by the people living there. We read in Scripture that the Canaanites' sin were so repellent that God said, "Because the entire land has become defiled, I am punishing the people who live there. I will cause the land to vomit them out." ---Leviticus 18:25 NLT

    God gave these people the Canaanites more than sufficient time to repent of their evil ways, over 400 years. (Genesis 15:13-16) The book of Hebrews tells us that the Canaanites were "disobedient," (Hebrews 11:31).

    They were also aware of God's power, we read in Scripture, "For we have heard how the Lord made a dry path for you through the Red Sea when you left Egypt. And we know what you did to Sihon and Og, the two Amorite kings east of the Jordan River, whose people you completely destroyed. No wonder our hearts have melted in fear! No one has the courage to fight after hearing such things. For the Lord your God is the supreme God of the heavens above and the earth below."---Joshua 2:10-11 NLT

    They (Canaanites) could have repented their evil ways but they continued their rebellion against God until the bitter end when God had the Israelites destroy them and rightfully so!

    If one reads the entire Chapter 18 of the Book of Leviticus, one would see that God had morally sufficient reasons for ordering the destruction of the Canaanites. Click on link below to see how repellent the sins of the Canaanites were.

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2018

    You are just making stuff up. I'm sorry but there is absolutely no where one could read in Scripture depicting children being bashed upon rocks, women made into sexual slaves, fathers eliminated. And so no, that is not the history recorded in the Bible. That is just falsehoods spewing out of your deceitful lips.

    No, God is never confused. Apparently it is you who is the one confused. Faith brought down the Roman Empire when they were an evil empire. But when they became Christianized, (the good guys) as WanRen said, "it was faith that stop Attila from destroying Rome"
     
  5. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Not only the opening of ones' mouth but the opening of one's mind, heart and spirit and the act of repentance with true sincerity out weight any faith that lack there of.

    Don't feel sorry for me but feel sorrow and sadness for those innocent people including the babies and young children that will suffer and not have the opportunity to live a safe, progressive and peaceful life if God had not intervene to destroy those wicked people and do nothing to allow those wicked and evil people to prosper and take control of this world.
     
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    I know because you made too many mistakes.

    A good Christian will admit their error, mistakes and learn from it but most of all they will admit they are sinners and will never distort or lie about the Holy Bible. A good human will never side with evil or wickedness Blessed are the clean of heart: for they shall see God
     
  7. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Who is the worse sinner, an atheist who commits atrocities or a religious person who believes in all of the religious doctrines but commits atrocities?
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Didn't Judas and Silas go on a preaching tour?

    Acts 15:27-33 (NKJV) =
    [SUP]"27 [/SUP]We have therefore sent Judas
    and Silas, who will also report the same things by word of mouth. [SUP]28 [/SUP]For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit
    , and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things:[SUP]29 [/SUP]that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well.

    Farewell.


    [h=3]Continuing Ministry in Syria[/h][SUP]30 [/SUP]So when they were sent off, they came to Antioch; and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the letter. [SUP]31 [/SUP]When they had read it, they rejoiced over its encouragement. [SUP]32 [/SUP]Now Judas and Silas, themselves being prophets also, exhorted and strengthened the brethren with many words. [SUP]33 [/SUP]And after they had stayed there for a time, they were sent back with greetings from the brethren to the apostles."
     
  9. Mitt Ryan

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    First define atrocities? Do you mean like what the Atheist Hitler did to the Jewish people?
     
  10. Mitt Ryan

    Mitt Ryan Well-Known Member

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    It's obvious you are misunderstanding God's omnipotence. Your question is illogical/incoherent. The past is history, it is done. The Bible is accurate but you want to know if it is possible for God to make it inaccurate?...again, there is nothing logical here, nothing coherent.

    We learn from Scripture that God does not change. God is immutable. Below are a few verses illustrating God's immutability.

    "I am the Lord, and I do not change. That is why you descendants of Jacob are not already destroyed."--- Malachi 3:6 NLT

    "God is no mere human!
    He doesn’t tell lies
    or change his mind.
    God always keeps his promises."---Numbers 23:19 CEV

    Illogical/incoherent.

    Illogical/incoherent.

    Illogical/incoherent

    Illogical/incoherent

    Illogical/incoherent

    How could any of your illogical/incoherent questions/statements be right?...right?...lol
     
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    Yes, me and many others. Trying to help you with your mistakes, it our mistake. Well only after the 3rd or more times.
    Yes, a good christian will admit error when one occurred.
     
  12. dairyair

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    God looked down on his creation and was angered at the evil. God then wiped out his creation with a flood.
    Feeling bad about that, he gave a covenant that he would not do that again, called it rainbow.
    Man must still not pleased God, so he sent a messiah and a new convenant.
     
  13. WanRen

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    Both are worse sinners. atrocities is atrocities
    An atheist will commit atrocities base on their misguided beliefs
    An atheist will will not commit atrocities because they understood good not evil
    A religious person will commit atrocities base on their misguided beliefs
    A religious person will not commit atrocities because of their religious beliefs in life, love and self sacrifice
    The worse people who commit atrocities are the pure evil and wicked ones people like Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, etc. etc. etc.
     
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    Many times you and your group have been tempting and attempting to trick me into making mistakes to lie about God and the Bible and many times I refused to be tricked and many times you and your group were exposed of your trickery but most of all your errors and mistakes that up to now you continue to deny, admit or ignore just like when you claim there are many different Christian religions knowingly well that there are many Christian sect or denominations not religion knowingly well there is a difference between religion and sects while at the same time you claim to be a Christian and it is for this reason why individuals like me have to step up to call your errors, mistakes, lie, distortion or misconception what ever you want to call it you chose remember honesty is the best policy.

    Indeed Christians have been admitting their sins and errors that is why the Catholic church has for centuries step forward and step up to correct those wrongs while many other none Christians hide or promote their wrongs because they can not differentiate or understand what is an error, sin or wrongs.
     
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    """other none Christians hide or promote their wrongs because they can not differentiate or understand what is an error, sin or wrongs.""

    The Catholic church is NON-christian? They hid and promoted child rape. They did NOT step forward and step up to correct those wrongs...UNTIL THEY WERE CAUGHT.

    You keep admitting Christians sin and then say they don't do anything wrong but everybody else does....make up your mind!
     
  16. GraspingforPeace

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    Oh, and what does "ape in every aspect" mean? What distinguishes, in your mind, an ape from a human?

    ...Do you still think that the term Great Ape refers to a singular species that was called the Great Ape?
     
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    And ideologies can't be right or wrong?

    What distinction are you making between right and wrong, and true and false?

    I'm a bit perplex on how his message would be an emanation of God. How do you know that it is an emanation of God? How do you determine this?

    I believe you're trying to say something deep here, but I couldn't really understand it. Can you say it in another way?

    But, I guess my point is, you can get these types of moral lessons from fables that have nothing to do with religions at all. So, what is the point of religion and why are you drawn to them?
     
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    I mean the genocide and crimes against humanity the Leopold II of Belgium committed against 10-12 million black Africans in the Congo. I mean the crimes against humanity that the Jews are committing against the Palestinians by stealing their lands and forcing them to live in two concentration camps.

    The list is long.
     
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    So you are saying the Catholic church is not a Christian religion or Christians? Well, maybe you are unintentionally being ignorant but for your information the Catholic church is a Christian religion we are Christians. The sinners inside the church were punish accordingly such as priest many were sent to monastery or to seclusion for them to mediate their sins and wrongs. The church itself offer restitution to the victims. The CAUGHT is an expression to dramatized and sensationalize situations for public consumption it is good publicity specially if it it involves the Catholic church.

    Everybody sins and everybody makes mistakes don't you make mistake are you not a sinner?
    Is it wrong fro Christians to stand up against tyranny and oppression?
    It is wrong for Christians to help the poor and destitute?
     
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    So basically you don't know the difference between an ape and human? I thought you are a science guy? But any way here it is;
    Great apes; the gorillas, common chimpanzees, and bonobos of Africa and the orangutans of Southeast Asia. These species are referred to as great apes because they are the largest apes.
    Gorillas: Like humans, gorillas are terrestrial animals. They are quadrupedal click this icon to hear the preceding term pronounced knuckle walkers. That is, they walk on the soles of their feet but not on the palms of their hands. They bend their fingers and support the upper end of their bodies with their knuckles instead of their open palms.

    They are shy, peaceful vegetarians who usually flee from humans and rarely fight even among themselves. They live in family groups consisting of a dominant adult male with several adult female mates and their children. These groups grow over time to 20 or more individuals. Subadult males are tolerated in the family as long as they are not actively competing with the dominant male for mates. Gorillas are highly sexually dimorphic. Adult males average about 350 pounds (160 kg.) and reach 400 pounds (181 kg.) in the wild, while most adult females are only about 155 pounds (70 kg.) and much less muscular.
    The gorilla, chimpanzee, bonobo, and orangutan are called great apes in recognition of their comparatively large size and humanlike features; the gibbons are called lesser apes. The great apes are much more intelligent than monkeys and gibbons. Great apes, for example, are able to recognize themselves in mirrors (monkeys and other nonhumans cannot, with the exception of bottlenose dolphins). They can also reason abstractly, learn quasi-linguistic communication, at least when taught by humans, and learn in captivity to make simple tools (though some populations of orangutans and chimpanzees make tools in the wild). The great apes were formerly classified in their own family, Pongidae, but, because of their extremely close relation to humans and the fact that orangutans, gorillas, and chimpanzees are not as closely related to each other as chimpanzees are to humans, all are now grouped with humans in the family Hominidae. Within this family gorillas, chimpanzees, and humans make up the subfamily Homininae, while orangutans are placed in their own subfamily, Ponginae. Within Homininae, humans are often placed in their own “tribe,” Hominini, while gorillas and chimpanzees are grouped in the tribe Gorillini. All nonhuman apes have been classified as endangered species.

    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/29410/ape

    so let us start with apes so base on ape description can you consider ape to be human?


    Is it not that was the theory that apes and humans evolved from this one single creature or cell called "great ape"? Therefore aside from the actual great ape such as the gorillas there is also this "fictional" or unknown great ape that is supposed to be the ancestor of both the great ape and humans? So who or what is this single great ape that created or evolved into different apes species and human races? So far science has discovered the Cro-Magno man and the Peking man that contradict the great ape theory.
     
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    Yes the list runs long how about the Syrians, Egyptians, Chinese, Turks, Russians, Palestinians, Arabs, Muslims, Indian, Somalians etc. all stealing lands and killing thousands of innocent civilians.
     
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    Yes, everyone , including YOU and I make mistakes....but child rape ISN'T a "mistake"...it's a vile heinous crime ...


    Now go read the bolded above and try to figure out how you went so wrong.....
     
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    Now go read the bolded above and try to figure out how you went so wrong.....

    You're asking for miracles.:smile:
     
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    His well know mantra in posting is making up falsehoods.
     
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    Don't act as though any atheist has ever raped a child.
     
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