Part 22 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Did you know that the Congress Critters swore an oath to uphold the Noahide code in American law? It's in the Congressional Record.

 

Not quite. Facts must be objective and demonstrable. The sun rising in the east is a fact. That the sunrise I saw this morning was beautiful is an opinion. Unless one can objectively demonstrate to others that it was God revealing itself and not a hallucination, it's just an opinion.

 

So drinking the tequila won't prevent me from getting into heaven, but swallowing the worm will?

 

Let us first look at science first according to science a global climatic event did happened and is possible in fact science believe earth is over due for another global climatic disaster. This correspond with the Bible Noah's flood that a global climatic event is possible.
Science as you said have all theories behind global climatic event and the reason it is only a theory is because they are not really sure for sure although it is 99% sure that a global climatic event did happened and is possible. Now, to the Bible estimated entry of modern man started around 10,000 BC with Adam and Eve. Science known recorded discoveries of modern human civilization is around 3000 BC with the bronze age and advent of writing system before that it was all prehistoric with fossils and other artifacts. Both science and the Bible talk about global climatic event which is science has confirm it is a possibility therefore on that point we know that it is a possibility and that for the Bible to mention that was what happened in Noah's flood is pretty accurate. The question now is how in 4000 BC a global flood occurred and how other parts of the world experienced it?

 

1. Jews according to their religion Judaism will go to heaven base on their interpretation
2. A Jews who ask Jesus to accept them to heaven will go to heaven. Judaism does not accept Jesus Christ therefore for a Jew to ask Jesus they will have to leave Judaism and become a Christian.
3. A Jew who follows Judaism and does not accept Jesus will not go to heaven base on Christian teachings they will go to Judaism heaven just like atheist will go to their atheist heaven or hell and agnostics will go to their heaven and hell and for those who totally do not believe in any life after death we do not know where their soul will go because like it or not they have a soul and it will go somewhere after they die.

 

Any observant Jews who do not believe Jesus is the Messiah who ask Jesus to accept them will be in heaven.

According to the Bible not only Jews but anyone who ask Jesus Christ to accept them they will be in heaven.
"Today you will be with me in Paradise"
"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.

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When has heaven and hell or life after death proven to be none existence?

 

And those objective things and the demonstrations must be capable of compelling your mind to accept them as true. In other words, those 'objective things' and 'demonstrations' serve as a 'proof' for you which will allow you to grant to them the label of 'fact'.

Unless you can objectively demonstrate that it was not God revealing Himself to me, then your claim is just an opinion or a hallucination of your own. What you have essentially claimed is that if someone does not agree with your perspective (mental or subjective analysis) of something then they are hallucinating or just expressing an opinion. So, are you claiming to be the only person on this planet that has any knowledge concerning God? Or are you admitting that you have no knowledge of God other than those three letters?

 

I am saying that science and the Bible agreed that a global climatic disaster is possible and real.
65,000,000 years ago the world was void and formless.
Modern man started around 10,000 BC the same years Adam and Eve came about.
Noah's flood....imagine katrina, super typhoon, super hurricane, the great quake that scientist are predicting will happened and now go back 4000 years ago do you think Louisiana would have survived Katrina if it wasn't for modern technology, transportation and communication 4000 years ago probably Louisiana or Noah's region would have about 5000 or 10,000 people already we witness that people will turn to barbarism in a situation like Katrina and the casualty toll can go as high as 5000 to 10,000 dead

 

Your interpretation of Judaism is beginning to sound like Mesopotamia and other Eastern religion hardly the true message of God of Abraham. (see the bold high lights) This is the more reason why Jesus Christ wanted to correct the inaccurate and wrong interpretation of God's message to the Jews.

 

you didn't answer the question.

are you saying the flood happened 65,000,000 years ago?

 

I'm saying that when someone believes they have experienced God, the only FACT in evidence is that they experienced something. Whether that something is God or a hallucination is a matter of OPINION.

 

And whose opinion is the most important? Well of course. The person who had the experience. Otherwise, you are suggesting that the other persons opinion about a personal experience that he or she had is irrelevant, unimportant and is the equivalent of a hallucination. That mindset only leads to endless refutations back and forth, and neither ever reaching a point of agreement. Should concessions be made from one side ceding to the other side? Of course not. That would imply that the one who conceded was not firm in his/her convictions regarding what the subject of the belief was. Will the endless refutations end in warfare? Of course they will. We have been speaking about 'God' and a belief in 'God', and it is well known through the annals of history that war is inevitable when religious tenets are challenged. Even the 'Bible' attests to the fact that there is a spiritual warfare on-going and will not cease until God has put a stop to it. OPINION... Yes.. You have your opinion and I have mine and others have theirs. I also have my beliefs and you and they have yours and their beliefs. Why do you or I or they believe in the manner in which we all believe.... bottom line.... because we desire to believe in the manner in which we believe.

 

That would be impossible. And that is a fact everyone can agree on.

 

Do you agree with mitt on the fact that according to his definition, you are not a christian?

 

That may be his opinion, and I am not worried about his opinion because he is not the one who will be sitting in judgment of my soul. Neither will you be in that position.

 

Stated fact. Not opinion.

 

A "fact" that he cannot make a determination upon. That authority only resides in God. Want to try again at pitting one Christian against another. Your attempts are feeble at best.

 

Not true, there is evidence...all you have to do is look around, open your eyes, open your mind for there is indeed evidence. First, there is the Bible. Second, there is nature. Third, there is man. These point to the Creator. None are possible by happenstance. None could have been produced by accident.

For how could anyone believe that everything in existence came about accidentally? There is absolutely no/zero evidence for that to be true.

We read in Scripture, "They know the truth about God because he has made it obvious to them. For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God."---Romans 1:19-20 NLT

Same can be said of people who profess to not believe in God, they have their own unique version of it and not the one that you believe in...e.g. the Buddhists who are basically atheists.

So in the end it's nothing but a self-delusion according to your logic.

 

Noah flood did not happened 65,000,000 years ago it happened around 5000 - 4000 years.
Global climatic events is a reality it happened 65,000,000 years ago, some 50,000,000, 40,0000,000, 20,000,000......and 4000 years ago and scientist are warning us today that it will happened again.

 

The flood story is a dead and stinking carcass. Even the Bible says that it's BS. Why people continue to believe it only shows how insane they really are. It might not be a good idea to trust them with your life or money.

Assyria, Ethiopia, Persia, and Arabia were alive and kicking with Adam & Eve https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis 2:10-14&version=CEB;NLT;CEV;MSG;NKJV

Then Noah's grandson Nimrod waltzed into Assyria and built some cities and even Babel (aka Babylon). https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis 10:8-12&version=CEB;NLT;CEV;MSG;NKJV

So since those places existed uninterrupted for centuries without any record of them ever being flooded out of existence it's safe to conclude that the next person who claims that Noah's flood was real is simply a ________________________ (and it's not a child of God).

 

When scientist experienced wireless telecommunication and made it a reality were they hallucinating?

 

Do you mean those Jews who realize that Jesus was Elijah, returned as promised in 32AD???


They both did the same miracles, which was traditionally supposed to identify Elijah when would come back.

Both Elijah and Jesus raised the dead

Both Elijah and Jesus were immortal.

Both Elijah and Jesus disappeared from the foot of a mountain.

Both Elijah and Jesus ascended into Heaven before witnesses.

Both Elijah and Jesus troubled Israel.

Both Elijah and Jesus were hunted down by the Jewish authorities.

Both Elijah and Jesus hid in a cave/tomb.

Both Elijah and Jesus pondered in the wilderness 40 days.

Both Elijah and Jesus walked on the water.

Both wrote letters to people on Earth after they had ascended.

Both appointed a successor, Elisha by Elijah, and Peter, by Christ.

Both were hunted by the Jewish authorities

Both gave a successor the power to raise the dead

Both gave a successor a symbolic authority, the cloak to one, the keys to the other.

Both asked that the this "cup" be taken from them.

Both are said to have had miraculous births.

Both multiplied the meal for many people they feed in the crowd

Both destroyed the pagan worshippers and priests, one Baal, the other, the Pantheon of Rome.

Both were promised faithfulness three times, Elisha in the former and Peter, in the latter.

 

The English wrote the Bible. They are excellent story-tellers. While they didn't invent the idea of God there's no such entity in existence anywhere, especially on Earth. If you want to believe in your favorite imaginary being go right ahead but it won't do you one bit of good.

 

are you ashamed to answer the question directly, Dave?

your crew has skirted around it every which way from Christmas, so it's looking very much as though that is the case.

 

No, he means good behaving Jewish guys and girls.

They could if they just normally believe the truth when they see it, and accordingly under those circumstances.

Christ is Truth. the idea.
People were "saved" before 32AD because they accepted Truth as their lord and the image of Reality, which they wanted to live inside.

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If they real kept the Torah, and loved God and their neighbor,... yes.
But many who believe the rituals are Judaism will end in Hell.